Well thats the problem with toyotas. They do/"appear to" make a good
quality truck, but when push comes to shove, and you put your money
where your mouth is... a v8 toyota looks pretty shitty compared to a
fullsize f150, or even an f250 if you get the right price. For the
money, I would take the better looking Ford over a toyota at the same price.
Fullsize fords i have more respect for than any other truck, i have
thrashed those trucks through more woods roads.
The rangers, however, are a completely different story!
Where are you getting this idea? When I bought a Nissan Frontier earlier
this year, I did a bit of shopping and everyone's lot was stuffed with
pick-ups. If anything, the Toyota dealers had many more Tundras on the lot,
in relationship to sales, than Ford had F150s. The Nissan dealers had
Frontiers and Titan everywhere. The Nissan dealer nearest my house has at
least 50 Frontiers on the lot right now (and this is on the lot where I can
see them - he has storage lots out in the country I don't see).
Where are you? When I was shopping for a Tundra, the dealer had no problem
rolling out one with the options I wanted from the "back" lot. When my Son
was shopping for a Mustang, the dealer had to get one from 100 miles away to
match his wants. The dealer also had plenty of Tacomas, but they came in too
varieties, stripped 4 cylinder manual models, and completely loaded up and
totally useless for a work truck models. I actually wanted a Tacoma instead
of a Tundra, but they had no Tacomas with the equipment I wanted - they were
either ridiculously over-equipped (and therefore ridiculously over-priced)
or stripped to the bone (but still ridiculously over-priced). I could find
plenty of Tundras set up as a work truck with the equipment I wanted. For
some reason, Toyota wasn't building any Tacomas with similar equipment. I
assume they figure the only people who buy Tacomas are fleets looking for
strippers and boy racer looking for big wheels, big stereos, and lots of
chrome. They had plenty of those choking the lot.
Again where do you live? You don't have Toyotaton? Around here it seem like
"Toyotaton" is an 11 month event. When Toyota isbn't running ads with stupid
F150 comparison (like my Tundra can haul 6'6" boards - your Ford can only
haul 6' 3" boards), they are screaming about the huge savings, great
discounts, rebates, etc. If you listened to the Toyota ads, you would think
they were giving Tundras away (at least till you try to buy one and they
slap on the "dealer fees" that make the price non-competitive). Nissan is
even worse. It seems like they have been running the "Year End Sales Event"
ads since last January.
Why do you think Ford is shutting down so many US plans and offering buy-out
to 30+% of their work force.
I'm not really slamming ford or promoting Toyota/Honda here.
I live in New Brunswick, Canada. And I can't udnerstand why there are
two ford dealers, two chev dealers, and two chrysler dealers... one
closed, and i figured well ones enough anyway... then another opened.
Honda, Toyota, Nissan all have just one dealer. Ford should do the same
-- they wouldn't have to supply so many damn vehicles to sit on a lot.
Then most people check prices, and end up going up the river about an
hour to another well known ford dealer.
Huh? This has nothing to do with vehicle quality. You gotta get a grip Ed.
It has EVERYTHING to do with financial management and the fact that the japs
have never played on the same field as the Big 3. Soon, there will be no
more guys with grade 12 educations slapping bumpers on cars for $25/hour.
Thank God. But it may be too late.
What in the world make you believe import brands do not try to sell to
fleets and rental car companies? They certainly do, they are just not very
successful at selling to fleets, with the exception of the Koreans.
Imports do in fact sell to rental car companies however and in bug numbers..
All manufactures offer discounts to fleets and rental car companies. It
ranges between $600 and $800
No, they will just be guys with grade 12 educations and 2 years run through
associates class trying to troubleshoot and diagnose the car that a bunch of
robots put together on an assembly line. A car, that is, which isn't
to be repaired. As a result if your a new car buyer you will probably be
to get used to discarding your car when it fails, and buying a new one.
your wallet can stand it.
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