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cautions, but their air filters have been given a "green light". Until
now. I bought a Fram CA8205 air filter for my 2006 Wrangler 4.0. The
fit has always been "snug", but in an air filter that's probably a good
thing. This time it was a bit too snug. I couldn't get all the snaps on
the filter box closed. Upon examining the filter and comparing it to the
old one I discovered the orange rubber was molded so poorly it wouldn't
seat properly in the filter "box". Since it's a 40 mile round trip to
Walmart I solved the problem with an X-Acto blade. Had I looked at the
filter before I bought it I would have taken another ... if I could have
found one that looked like it was properly molded. Just a heads up for
the group.
FRH
Re: Fram Air Filters
You too, eh.
I usually buy several filters at once, especially if I find them on sale.
Took one out last week and thought some idiot must have swapped filters.
Turns out that one had a bad rubber as well. Opened the other three and
they were just fine.
Someone must have a bad die in the injection molding machine.
--
DougW
Re: Fram Air Filters
Never understood saving a few pennies. I had 2 problems ( slow
learner ) with Fram in my Liberty. That caused me to be more conscious
of the filters I purchase. I now use nothing but NAPA Gold filters (
actually WIX ). If you change oil 4 times a year you might save $20
buying cheap filters for a $30,000 engine. sorta a no brainer!
--
Jim - Wandering in Arizona
Re: Fram Air Filters
My best friend swears by the K&N oil filter for his 2004 Liberty
Rocky Mountain edition because of the "Nut" built into the bottom of
the filter casing for ease of filter removal.
I previously used Fram oil filters without any problems, but
seeing our KJ has 226,000 kilometers/ 140,430 Miles I figure
for the small additional cost of a Mobile 1 oil filter, it's cheaper
than replacing an engine!
I still use Fram air filters because I have a stock of them.
(And yes, I usually checked them before purchase because they do
vary from one to another regarding the Orange urethane gasket.)
Once my supply of them is depleted, I'll switch to the new K&N
air filter a fellow KJ owner gifted to me.
And only until I finish fabricating my snorkel which uses a
Spectre Performance life time cleanable air filter.
http://www.jegs.com/i/Spectre/865/9833/10002/-1
Cheers
Ry'
Re: Fram Air Filters
Your basic air filter is good enough without going to snake-oil systems.
Think of it this way, if that was actually better for economy
and mileage, the manufacturer would be all over it to meet CAFE
requirements.
I'm happy with my Fram air filters. 190k on the ZJ and 100+ on the blower.
all under a Fram. And that includes some real crappy dusty backroads.
--
DougW
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I've got not problems about how well Fram air filters do their job
(filtering air), but the lack of quality control concerning fit annoys
me. I'll be opening the box next time I buy an air filter of any brand. :-)
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DougW wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Budd Cochran wrote:
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<pre wrap="">For those of you considering K$N filters:
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href="http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm">http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm</a>
Personally, I wouldn't want more dirt going into my engines.
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True.
Your basic air filter is good enough without going to snake-oil systems.
Think of it this way, if that was actually better for economy
and mileage, the manufacturer would be all over it to meet CAFE
requirements.
I'm happy with my Fram air filters. 190k on the ZJ and 100+ on the blower.
all under a Fram. And that includes some real crappy dusty backroads.
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I've got not problems about how well Fram air filters do their job
(filtering air), but the lack of quality control concerning fit annoys
me. I'll be opening the box next time I buy an air filter of any brand.
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Frank_v7.0 wrote:
That's "I've go no problems" ... I'm not fully awake yet :-)
FRH
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DougW wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:im44i1$kg9$1@news.eternal-september.org"
<pre wrap="">Budd Cochran wrote:
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<pre wrap="">For those of you considering K$N filters:
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href="http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm">http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm</a>
Personally, I wouldn't want more dirt going into my engines.
</pre>
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True.
Your basic air filter is good enough without going to snake-oil systems.
Think of it this way, if that was actually better for economy
and mileage, the manufacturer would be all over it to meet CAFE
requirements.
I'm happy with my Fram air filters. 190k on the ZJ and 100+ on the blower.
all under a Fram. And that includes some real crappy dusty backroads.
</blockquote>
I've got not problems about how well Fram air filters do their job
(filtering air), but the lack of quality control concerning fit annoys
me. I'll be opening the box next time I buy an air filter of any brand.
</blockquote>
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Frank_v7.0 wrote:
I give up :-)
FRH
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Frank_v7.0 wrote:
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Frank_v7.0 wrote:
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DougW wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:im44i1$kg9$1@news.eternal-september.org"
<pre wrap="">Budd Cochran wrote:
</pre>
<pre wrap="">For those of you considering K$N filters:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm">http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm</a>
Personally, I wouldn't want more dirt going into my engines.
</pre>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
True.
Your basic air filter is good enough without going to snake-oil systems.
Think of it this way, if that was actually better for economy
and mileage, the manufacturer would be all over it to meet CAFE
requirements.
I'm happy with my Fram air filters. 190k on the ZJ and 100+ on the blower.
all under a Fram. And that includes some real crappy dusty backroads.
</blockquote>
I've got not problems about how well Fram air filters do their job
(filtering air), but the lack of quality control concerning fit annoys
me. I'll be opening the box next time I buy an air filter of any brand.
</blockquote>
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Re: Fram Air Filters
as paper ... until they get plugged up.
Most tests show that a paper filter stops about 98% of the dirt from getting
into an engine ... a K$N stops about 97%.
Sure, it's "ONLY" 1% more dirt going into and wearing out your engine, if
you want to look at it from that viewpoint ...
BUT
It's also 50% more dirt going into your engine than the paper filter allows
( 3% of dirt entering the engine is 50% greater than 2% of dirt entering the
engine). What's that going to do to your cylinder walls and rings????
Also, an unmodified engine will only draw about 80% Volumetric Efficiency
or, IOW, a 4L engine will only draw 3.2 L of air regardless of the flow
rating of the air filter compared to the stock element, which is plenty big
for a stock engine.
So, with more dirt going thru a over-priced filter, I don't see an economic
advantage, if you want to keep an engine running well for as long as
possible.
But, hey, it's your choice: pay now (K$N) or pay later (engine overhaul
sooner than normal).
Budd
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