Garage Tried it On!!! Caught Them Out

Put my Stilo 1.9 JTD in for a 36K service at a Fiat dealership close to where I work. When I collected the car they handed over my receipt and a list of operations carried out on which they ticked the relevant boxes for a

36K service.

Later that night I noticed that the brake fluid change box wasn't ticked despite this being a requirement in the service schedule. Next morning I checked a few other simple things such as screen wash (not topped up but charged £2.50 for it) and door hinges (had not been lubricated). When I got to work I rang the service manager and explained that I was unhappy with the service and extremely concerned that a number of items had been missed. He promised to deal with it that day and called me back 20 minutes later after speaking to the mechanic who did (or didn't do) the work; the service manager explained that the mechanic had forgotten the screen wash but had changed the brake fluid.

To ensure I was completely happy he offered to check the car over personally if I took it in. That wasn't practical so he then offered to bring the mechanic with him to see me at work. I went out to the car 5 minutes before they arrived armed with a torch and had a quick look at the rear calipers; no sign of a spanner removing road grime from the bleed nipple and no signs of fluid on the caliper suggested it was unlikely the brake fluid had been changed.

When they arrived the mechanic apologised for forgetting the screen wash but said he had changed the fluid. I then challenged as to why the fluid reservoir was only half full for which he provided a valid explanation. I then asked why there were no signs that the N/S rear caliper bleed nipple had been undone to which he explained that it was seized and he had undone the flexible hose in order to bleed the brakes. H then told me that all the other calipers had been bled through the bleed nipple. So I showed him the O/S rear caliper at which point he went 'oh' and his manager just looked at the floor.

Mechanic then continued to dig a hole by saying that they were both seized (contrary to what he said 1 minnute ago!) at which point I explained the car was under 2 years old and was still in warrranty and this should be rectified and not ignored. He then explained that when siezed they sometimes snap when an attempt is made to remove them; again I explained that the car was still under warranty and if the brakes were not servicable then something wasn't right.

They then took the car back to the garage and returned it 5 hours later, with new bleed nipples, signs that the fluid had been changed and even valeted the car for me. The car was far more responsvie (so I guess they changed the air filter on the 2nd attempt). I guess some people would just hand the money over and assume that the work was done.

Credit to the service manager as he wanted to put things right and wasn't happy that he was paying somebody to do a job and it wasn't being done to the right standard.

Andy

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Andrew
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The message from "Andrew" contains these words:

Since the purpose of changing the brake fluid is to remove the possibly (usualy) contaminated fluid from the pistons, doing it by removing the hose isn't going to acheive the desired result anyway.

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Guy King

Surely bleeding by taking the pipe off is just going to leave some air in the system, what a load of bollox!

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Dave Griffs

The message from "Dave Griffs" contains these words:

Not necessarily. I've done it successfully before now. A handy trick which I've used for years when bleeding rear brakes after a cylinder change is to clamp the hose, change the bits, then open the tap and just let the fluid flow out on its own. Takes a few minutes and sometimes you have to squeeze the pistons in and out to help it along, so it's best done before you refit the shoes. The main advantage apart from simplicity is that you don't push the master cylinder piston over the unused bit at the end and damage the seals.

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Guy King

I`d be tempted to make sure Fiat UK know about it ! (and the "satisfactory" resolution of course), and trading standards.

It`d be a real shame if they were forced to recall and reservice every car they`d done for, say, the last 6 months...

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Colin Wilson

LOL, when you phone Fiat customer support you get through to Italy now, and they don't give a shit.

I tried on a number of occasions to try and get some help for a customer, only to end in frustration for both parties.

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Andy Hewitt

I had a similar experience with Shitroen over a lemon AX, reg. L682TKD

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Colin Wilson

Colin Wilson ( snipped-for-privacy@btinternet.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

For a "lemon", that '93 AX10 has only fallen out of use this year... Last tax disc expired in May 05.

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Adrian

Interesting - I wonder how many more attempts it took to sort out the brakes... I had it booked into the dealer at least 3 times, and it still swapped lanes when braking normally. I suspect the Fiat mechanic from the service c*ck-up post earlier might have once been Shitroen trained...

I had a catalogue of problems (in all fairness the majority were probably dealer inspired), and I got shut after 6 months as the stress was causing me health problems. It had been back with the dealer a good few weeks overall by then.

To give you an idea of the competence of the dealer, when the rear screen shattered at

Reply to
Colin Wilson

Near Basingstoke, perchance? I've just had a similar scenario with our motability car...

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Paul Cummins

Maybe nip round the garage one night and take a shit through the letterbox. That's always a nice manoeuvre, if you can pull it off.

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Anal Fister

I took my Beetle in for a service with 12,000 miles on the clock - before the indicator said it was due, but I don't trust those things and hate the idea of going so long without changing the oil.

I was given the choice of the long life or regular oil; as the car is on the variable intervals I wanted to keep it that way so wanted the oil.

Got the service done, paid, very expensive.

Checked the oil.

It was brown. Not even golden, but brown. God knows what the cheap oil is they're using.

Anyway, took it back, was told "they'd have to analyse it to know if it was the wrong oil", but did change it (and the filter) when I pointed out that the long life oil is bright green and smells very different.

Sure enough, the second time, it had green oil.

Richard

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RichardK

Christ. It's just a bloody car, and a cheap one at that.

Richard

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RichardK

That's why I do oil/filter change myself.

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Johannes

In news: snipped-for-privacy@news.individual.net, Colin Wilson decided to enlighten our sheltered souls with a rant as follows

Heh, why do I suspect that was from Benhams in Aigburth.

I had a similar problem with N764BKF

Reply to
Pete M

It wasn`t cheap to me at the time. Not everyone has several grand at their disposal at the drop of a hat - I certainly don`t - and a few years more down the line, i`m still living on my overdraft !

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Colin Wilson

Strangely, no - Lexell in Bootle...

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Colin Wilson

Colin Wilson ( snipped-for-privacy@btinternet.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Then you were a bit of a fool for spending far more than you could afford on a brand new car that'd lose most of it's value immediately.

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Adrian

That's not fair really is it. It's the strain of trying to get the dealer to set things right that causes the health problems. I have problems with a couple of main dealers and some large secondhand retailers so now I have a deeply cynical and combatative attitude if I have to deal with the bugger.

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Malc

Sure. But claiming "Ill health due to stress"?

Richard

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RichardK

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