Coil Suspension woes

Hi, can anyone please please help....

I have just fitted coil suspension to my Mini, replacing the rubber units. The whole thing has been a little nightmare as I have found no where a decent guide to doing it and have to everything blind. The rear was okay, got it sorted out with a little height tuning using the supplied Hi-Lo's. The front however is another matter!

I set the height of the Hi-lo's a little higher than that of the standard front trumpet, fitted it all up with all new suspension and steering components, then put the wheels back on and tested it out, I now have no front suspension as the whole thing rests on the bump stops.

I have had to increase the front hi-lo height by over an inch to allow for an inch gap between the bump stop and top arm, normal driving is now a little dodgy as only the outside edge of the tyres are making contact with the road and the front is well higher than the back, and going over every man hole or pot hole in the road the suspension still bottoms out on the bump stop! I have good spax adjustable dampers, and they have been set between to soft and hard but still bottoms out!

I am at a loss, I dont want to start adding adjustable camber arms etc at this point as the kit was to just replace the suspension, not turn it into a corner hogging sports car.

Has anyone any suggestions, have i missed anything out?

Hope you can,

thanks

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Barspeed and his magical Mini
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I take it you don't mean coilover suspension?

The springs aren't different weights? harder ones for the front and softer ones for the back, so maybe they are the wrong way around?

Other than that, I don't know. Would like to know what happens as I though about fitting them myself.

cheers

-anthony

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Anthony

Hi, these are rubber cone replacement springs. I have just been looking at it, on the Hi-Los, the threaded bolt has bent!!! But it still rests on the bump stops.....

The fronts are correctly fitted, they are marked front.....

spoke to supplier, will speak to him again, failing this i paid using credit card so might get my money back to buy some trusty rubber cones in the end, tut

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Barspeed and his magical Mini

Yes i've heard some disturbing tales about some aftermarket coil suspension springs. Well some have had cheaper versions actually break on their Mini's, so unless their top spec components, i'd take them off myself and stick with the original rubber type. I've had Mini Sport Adjusta-Ride suspension with Gas Spax adjustable dampers fitted to my Mini Cooper for exactly a decade now and i've not had any problems whatsoever. But I did just keep the original rubber cones mind, but they still seem fine anyway! Oh and i've got my dampers turned up just a couple of clicks on the front and a couple more on the back and the ride is slightly firm but still comfortable and it really holds firm around the bends. Any harder and it's too firm for on the road use.

Taffy

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Taffy

I retained the rear units, just need to get new front ones as they were mangled during removal, any suggestions on what type, i have read about uprighted units, what are they like?

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Barspeed and his magical Mini

Don't know, but later rubber cones tend to be softer for ride comfort, but they also can compress/shrink quicker with time though. I guess you need to ask a good Mini Specialist if they have variable spring rates? Harder cones maybe as fitted to earlier pre 1988 Mini's? Well I'm sure I read somewhere that the cones got softer after 1988, don't know if it's actually true though?

Taffy

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Taffy

Yeah ive heard pretty much that from friends, will be asking Moss at the weekend if they do the harder wearing ones, the original soft ones have only lasted 19000miles and four years!!

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Barspeed and his magical Mini

Oh god, but I've still got the originals on my 1990 Mainstream Mini Cooper and it's almost gone around the clock! LOL Mind you I do have MiniSport Adjusta-Rides and Gas Spax Adjustable Dampers all round too!

Taffy

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Taffy

yeah, seems like there is a differance then, all my other Mini's have or had retained there original cones, I took the original one off and it was a good three quarters an inch lower than a new one, quite amazing.

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Barspeed and his magical Mini

Good on you Taffy, Nice to hear the experience of a true mini man come through, You and Steve 68s are true assets of this group and your mini knowledge is invaluable to the younger members as well as older ones like me, Don't go back ... do not respond..... MAD--MAX is desperate for some response , just look at the other threads, he is throwing all kinds of insults out trying to catch ANYONE who will give him a argument, DO NOT RESPOND , you have done your bit Taff, by defending what you so passionately drive every day.....for which there is no modern comparison................... A REAL mini,... Fitzy

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Fitzy

Modern? Yeah right. Why not try ancient and outdated. If you call my responses desperate you would be mistaken my friend. I have never compared the old model mini to the new. There is no comparison. The new mini just plain out performs the old, period. Don't get me wrong, I admire you classic mini collectors, just cut me a little slack. Can't I have my opinions also?

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madmax

........................................................... Sorry ,,,, wrong NG Fitzy

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Fitzy

BMW MINI COOPER S Kerb weight 1130kg Power 165 bhp Power to weight 146bhp/ton

Rover Mini Kerb weight 620kg power 90bhp power to weight 145bhp/ton

big perfomance gap on paper anyway (1bhp/ton)

I can only assume that you haven't actually driven an old mini?

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miniman

Thanks miniman, I was just looking for the figures as you posted them, cheers the figures say it all,,, Have you noticed there are more women driving the bmw version, don't get me wrong here, I think its a great car, but its got the wrong badges on it, and personally I would not own one, women like it because its a modern Euro hatch, and I feel they are not informed of the small Peugeot,Citroen, Renault or Fiat products that are faster,cheaper, and all round better car,

Fitzy

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Fitzy

You shouldn't assume, because I drove a classic mini for quite some time. I don't drive on paper. The new mini simply out performs the old in every aspect, on the road. Perhaps it is that added weight and wider stance, for sure the supercharged engine helps.

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madmax

Fitzy wrote:>>

I've noticed that both men and women drive the new mini. Probably because it is fun. German engineered cars just last better and hold on to a higher resale value. Now I have noticed more women driving the hummer. Go figure.

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madmax

Well it might be German engineered, but it's still built in Cowley, England by the same workforce that produced other horror stories such as the Morris Marina!

Taffy

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Taffy

Added weight always makes for a better handling car....... mmmmm

I must admit I was thinking of buying a new mini a while back but I test drove one and got quickly bored, I am sure the new mini newsgroup could have helped me with any problems I had though!

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miniman

This time, they have a winner!

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madmax

I doubt it. Just looked in and not one message. Maybe in 30 years, like this group.

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madmax

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