"Auto Side Shows" vs "Cruising"

What video player does it use?

I gotta ask, compared to Oakland, where the incidents in the article took place, what size and demographic type town did you live in?

Places like Merced, Modesto, etc, (think American Graffiti if you have never been there) are worlds away from Oakland, Vallejo, East LA, etc. Totally different street codes. Totally different "machismo". Reps mean more, and you can't let anyone cross the line into your space. If they push you and you don't push back harder, you're a wimp and nobody respects a wimp. All to often, as most city cops know, this is what leads to shootings, stabbing's, gang fights, etc. Turf wars.

Yours is really American Graffiti style. I personally prefer i that way. Everyone does a little of this, and a little of that, and they go home in one piece. You might get popped if you hit on somebody's girlfriend, but usually, you accepted the rebuke and moved on.

Of course, we who were >Listen to the article and then check out the video link below the >picture.

Spike

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"When the time comes to lay down my life for my country, I do not cower from this responsibility. I welcome it." -JFK Inaugural Address

I think you're gettin' old Patrick.

Give them a place to do it, and let them have some fun.

We were going to do it anyway, they will too.

Here, there is a strip in Jackson that anyone can run anything as many times as they want for $5.00 for the whole evening. Last Friday night we saw Quads racing, a motorcycle that was doing some amazing times with nitros, Hot Rods, and a dork in a PT Cruiser that had everyone laughing but he never gave up and did better each time and so so much more.

They get a shot at racing, get their time slips and they are in a controlled environment. Meaning NOT on the street.

Some of the cars were pro quality, others were pretty sad, all had fun and there were several groups having a beer along side the track and watching. Families (like mine) everyone had fun. There was even a mom, her hubby and a couple of her teenagers in a BMW that was not fast, but she ran about three times and had a grin all over her face.

Something should be available to people who like to play with their cars all across the country. If someone had the capital to make it a nationwide thing, I think it would be as hot as Sonic.

Kate

You're lucky with something like that for only $5. They started a street legal drag program here several years ago. I think it now costs over $20 to get in and you're lucky to get many runs at all.

For the $5 program, do they just run the lights and forget about the ET's? Or is it a full test-n-tune style setup?

I guess you need the ET's to determine safety equipment, to comply with insurance, NHRA/IHRA rules for associated tracks, etc...

But it seems that it could still be stripped down to the minimum cost for the track while keeping things within safety standards.

Unfortunately, when something like this gets popular, they immediately start to jack up prices to turn profits. Thus it's back to the streets where the price is free, but the risks are higher.

Steve

72 Skylark Custom455

SVTKate wrote:

Have a peek,

: > Give them a place to do it, and let them have some fun. : >

: > We were going to do it anyway, they will too. : >

: > Here, there is a strip in Jackson that anyone can run anything as many times : > as they want for $5.00 for the whole evening. : > Last Friday night we saw Quads racing, a motorcycle that was doing some : > amazing times with nitros, Hot Rods, and a dork in a PT Cruiser that had : > everyone laughing but he never gave up and did better each time and so so : > much more. : >

: > They get a shot at racing, get their time slips and they are in a controlled : > environment. Meaning NOT on the street. : >

: > Some of the cars were pro quality, others were pretty sad, all had fun and : > there were several groups having a beer along side the track and watching. : > Families (like mine) everyone had fun. There was even a mom, her hubby and a : > couple of her teenagers in a BMW that was not fast, but she ran about three : > times and had a grin all over her face. : >

: > Something should be available to people who like to play with their cars all : > across the country. If someone had the capital to make it a nationwide : > thing, I think it would be as hot as Sonic. : >

: > Kate : >

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"Kates Krazy Kar SideShow" Step right in and see it now!! :-P

What kind of turnout do they get on $5 nights?

Are we talk> Have a peek,

In an age where some schools have prohibited "running on the playground" during recess, and chase off neighborhood kids from their playgrounds.. while removing swings and climbing items or anything else where a kid might get hurt..

Do we REALLY think that 'open comp' sanctioning for a few bucks will work?

Send a thank you note to your friendly negligence attorney... you only have to watch tv for half an hour to find one.

And remember who votes for these things. It sure's he!! isnt usually 'fascist conservatives'. It's those people who consider it their duty to 'protect you from yourself'

When we were out there last weekend, there were at least a hundred cars out there, not all of them racing but a bunch of them did. Over and over and over....

Kristen even got to ride down the track in an SS Camaro that did a 6.65 in the 1/8th and he was NOT really pushing it cause he knew her momma would whoop him

"AGuyNamedSteve" wrote in message news:s9fKe.3883$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... : What kind of turnout do they get on $5 nights? : : Are we talking dozens of cars or hundreds? : : SVTKate wrote: : > Have a peek, : >

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: > "AGuyNamedSteve" wrote in message : > news:2KbKe.3717$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... : > : You're lucky with something like that for only $5. They started a : > : street legal drag program here several years ago. I think it now costs : > : over $20 to get in and you're lucky to get many runs at all. : > : : > : For the $5 program, do they just run the lights and forget about the : > : ET's? Or is it a full test-n-tune style setup? : > : : > : I guess you need the ET's to determine safety equipment, to comply with : > : insurance, NHRA/IHRA rules for associated tracks, etc... : > : : > : But it seems that it could still be stripped down to the minimum cost : > : for the track while keeping things within safety standards. : > : : > : Unfortunately, when something like this gets popular, they immediately : > : start to jack up prices to turn profits. Thus it's back to the streets : > : where the price is free, but the risks are higher. : > : : > : Steve : > : 72 Skylark Custom455 : > : : > : SVTKate wrote: : > : > I think you're gettin' old Patrick. : > : >

: > : > Give them a place to do it, and let them have some fun. : > : >

: > : > We were going to do it anyway, they will too. : > : >

: > : > Here, there is a strip in Jackson that anyone can run anything as many : > times : > : > as they want for $5.00 for the whole evening. : > : > Last Friday night we saw Quads racing, a motorcycle that was doing some : > : > amazing times with nitros, Hot Rods, and a dork in a PT Cruiser that had : > : > everyone laughing but he never gave up and did better each time and so : > so : > : > much more. : > : >

: > : > They get a shot at racing, get their time slips and they are in a : > controlled : > : > environment. Meaning NOT on the street. : > : >

: > : > Some of the cars were pro quality, others were pretty sad, all had fun : > and : > : > there were several groups having a beer along side the track and : > watching. : > : > Families (like mine) everyone had fun. There was even a mom, her hubby : > and a : > : > couple of her teenagers in a BMW that was not fast, but she ran about : > three : > : > times and had a grin all over her face. : > : >

: > : > Something should be available to people who like to play with their cars : > all : > : > across the country. If someone had the capital to make it a nationwide : > : > thing, I think it would be as hot as Sonic. : > : >

: > : > Kate : > : >

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: > : > wrote in message : > : > news: snipped-for-privacy@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... : > : > : Listen to the article and then check out the video link below the : > : > : picture. : > : > : : > : > :

> : > : : > : > : Here are my thoughts... this coming from a 40+ year old guy who has : > : > : done his fair share of illegal street racing, cruising and hanging : > out. : > : > : In my opinion, in *this* video these guys are completely out of : > : > : control. With all the tire smoke, the drivers have no idea how close : > : > : the crowd is to their car. And members of the crowd have to be either : > : > : drunk and/or high to have the ass-end of 3,000 pound vehicles flinging : > : > : around to within feet of where they are standing. These people are : > : > : truly stupid! And in the article where they are molesting women, : > : > : getting in fights, etc... they're criminals. We (cruisers) would : > : > : distance ourselves from people like that, and they'd piss us [the : > : > : cruisers] off because they'd spoil a good thing. The "good thing" : > : > : being hanging out with friends, trying to meet girls, and... every : > once : > : > : in a while... occasionally... okay every night, there'd be a little : > : > : street racing going on. But we were always cool about what we did. : > : > : Here were our rules: : > : > : : > : > : "Hanging out" meant we'd meet on the main drag in town usually in the : > : > : parking lot of a local business where we'd talk, bullshit, listen to : > : > : music, and watch the other cruisers drive my. But we never vandalized : > : > : anything, or left garbage or beer bottles (hey, it was the

70s/very : > : > : early 80s - driving and driving was okay if you only had a couple.) in : > : > : the parking lots. : > : > : : > : > : "Meeting girls" meant being on the constant lookout for cute girls or : > a : > : > : car load of girls who were cruising looking for guys. We'd beep, : > : > : they'd beep, we'd motion for them to stop somewhere, and from there it : > : > : was the usual teenage trying to get to know you better thing. Guys : > : > : harassing girls was frowned on, and any guy hurting girl was a reason : > : > : for that guy to get his ass kicked (beat up, not killed). : > : > : : > : > : "Street racing" usually meant a progression of "are you interested" : > : > : signs. The blip of a throttle, a drop of a gear before you cruised : > by, : > : > : a little scratch on a gear change, a quick punch, after which, if the : > : > : other guy had returned the signs, the search for some clear pavement : > : > : quickly ensued. The race was on! Sometimes the race was a quick : > light : > : > : to light job. But most times any serious stuff/speed was done on the : > : > : far end of town where the road was wide and the traffic was really : > : > : spread out. Or we'd head out to the highway and organize a quarter : > : > : mile run. Yeah, it was a little stupid and dangerous, but we tried to : > : > : keep it "controlled". Nothing like the guys in the video who are : > doing : > : > : donuts in a crowd of people. IMO, these guys are taking what we did : > to : > : > : a *much* higher level. Our stuff, for the most part, was misdemeanor; : > : > : their's is mostly criminal. The cops would only give us the bump once : > : > : in a while if we stayed in one place too long or the crowd got too : > big. : > : > : For the most part, we policed ourselves... stupid people got yelled : > : > : at/ridiculed. On the other hand, IMO, the guys in this video should : > be : > : > : arrested. : > : > : : > : > : However, arresting kids is the not the complete answer though. : > : > : Cities/urban areas need to offer the kids some outlets. Drag : > : > : strips/race tracks need to be available. That way when "exhibitions" : > : > : get busted up the cops can say, dude, next time drive 30-60 minutes to : > : > : the track instead of paying a fine/ticket. : > : > : : > : > : Does anyone agree with me, or am I just being a hypocrite? What are : > : > : your thoughts? : > : > : : > : > : Patrick : > : > : '93 Cobra : > : > : : > : >

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: : "Kates Krazy Kar SideShow" Step right in and see it now!! :-P : : -- : : "Gullible is a misdemeanor - stupid is a felony... : clueless gets you committed..." - JG

I'm gonna have you committed. I was thinking more like "Dangerous Dick's Drag Strip"

Kate

I think that name is already taken by a tranvestite only strip club just outside of San Francisco. ;)

I don't think you're being hypocritical. What you and I did was not the same as this crap. It wasn't this ridiculous and stupid. And how I race a dude in a car on the street is not the same. I'm not looking for "schtreet credit", I'm just having fun with someone. This stuff goes on here, there, and everywhere. It's big in Latin America, doing stunts etc. in a crowd of others.

If I do race someone, I don't ever race wannabe cholo scrubs, I race others whom I sense are enthusiasts, and might just have a sense of both their and others' mortalities, a respect for machinery, as well as an awareness the risk factors. I let off after I know I've beaten them, or I've been beaten. I don't want some idiot that will stomp his brakes while I'm under full throttle (if he gets past me) to prove a point. Sure, all of that is hard to get from 10 seconds at a stoplight, but I know what to avoid. They're so busy proclaiming their idiotic selves to the world, it's obvious who it is, most of the time.

The difference is whether it's basically civilized and friendly or not. This is not. I understand pride, but this crosses the line into stupidity. This is unskilled idiocy that anyone could do, put to music anyone can get, pumped out of systems anyone can buy, with a decidedly malicious side instead of the more laid-back "out cruising for chicks" vibe. This is just trash having a trashy old good time.

Damn!! That was my mistake. No, the place in Frisco is the Drag AND Strip... ROFL!!

"WindsorFox[SS]" wrote

: > I think that name is already taken by a tranvestite only strip club just : > outside of San Francisco. ;) : : Damn!! That was my mistake. No, the place in Frisco is the Drag AND : Strip... ROFL!! : : --

ROFL! This just keeps getting better and better!

That was my next question... it must be an 1/8th mile track?

Steve

72 Skylark Custom455

SVTKate wrote:

Yes it is.

: SVTKate wrote: : > When we were out there last weekend, there were at least a hundred cars out : > there, not all of them racing but a bunch of them did. : > Over and over and over.... : >

: > Kristen even got to ride down the track in an SS Camaro that did a 6.65 in : > the 1/8th and he was NOT really pushing it cause he knew her momma would : > whoop him : >

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: > : > : > Give them a place to do it, and let them have some fun. : > : > : >

: > : > : > We were going to do it anyway, they will too. : > : > : >

: > : > : > Here, there is a strip in Jackson that anyone can run anything as : > many : > : > times : > : > : > as they want for $5.00 for the whole evening. : > : > : > Last Friday night we saw Quads racing, a motorcycle that was doing : > some : > : > : > amazing times with nitros, Hot Rods, and a dork in a PT Cruiser that : > had : > : > : > everyone laughing but he never gave up and did better each time and : > so : > : > so : > : > : > much more. : > : > : >

: > : > : > They get a shot at racing, get their time slips and they are in a : > : > controlled : > : > : > environment. Meaning NOT on the street. : > : > : >

: > : > : > Some of the cars were pro quality, others were pretty sad, all had : > fun : > : > and : > : > : > there were several groups having a beer along side the track and : > : > watching. : > : > : > Families (like mine) everyone had fun. There was even a mom, her : > hubby : > : > and a : > : > : > couple of her teenagers in a BMW that was not fast, but she ran : > about : > : > three : > : > : > times and had a grin all over her face. : > : > : >

: > : > : > Something should be available to people who like to play with their : > cars : > : > all : > : > : > across the country. If someone had the capital to make it a : > nationwide : > : > : > thing, I think it would be as hot as Sonic. : > : > : >

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