U.S. regulators seek brake-throttle override mandate for all light vehicles

U.S. regulators seek brake-throttle override mandate for all light vehicles

Christina Rogers

Automotive News -- April 12, 2012 - 12:28 pm ET UPDATED: 4/12/12 4:09 pm ET

U.S. regulators today proposed a requirement that light vehicles have an override mechanism that enables a driver to stop a car or truck if the accelerator pedal gets stuck. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said it was proposing the brake-throttle override rule because research showed it can reduce the risk of high-speed unintended acceleration and prevent crashes.

The override technology, which many automakers already make available, enables drivers to stop a vehicle if the brake and accelerator are depressed at the same time. NHTSA will hold a 60-day public comment period once the proposal is published in the Federal Register. After the public comment period, NHTSA will review the proposal before it finalizes the requirement.

The federal agency didn't offer an estimate on how much it would cost manufacturers to add the technology, only saying it could be done "without significant difficulty or cost."

"America's drivers should feel confident that anytime they get behind the wheel they can easily maintain control of their vehicles -- especially in the event of an emergency," U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said in a statement.

"By updating our safety standards, we're helping give drivers peace of mind that their brakes will work even if the gas pedal is stuck down while the driver is trying to brake."

The proposal comes in the wake of 2009 and 2010 recalls by Toyota Motor Corp. for problems related to unintended acceleration. The automaker ended up recalling millions of Toyota and Lexus vehicles worldwide and paying fines of $48.8 million for failing to order the recall in a timely manner.

A 10-month investigation by NASA and NHTSA into the matter found no electronic defect in Toyota models. The agencies blamed the incidents on pedals that got stuck or caught under floor mats.

Since the Toyota recall, regulators have become more aggressive about addressing the issue. NHTSA has been exploring a brake-throttle override system mandate since 2010.

Thousands of reports

NHTSA officials did not mention the Toyota recall in a statement today about the proposed requirement. But in the rule's proposal, the agency notes that it received "thousands" of reports of unattended acceleration over a 10-year period starting in January 2000.

Said NHTSA administrator David Strickland: "We learned as part of the comprehensive NASA and NHTSA studies of high-speed unintended acceleration that brake override systems could help drivers avoid crashes."

The technology works by cutting power to the engine when the brake and accelerator pedals are pressed.

NHTSA, by ordering all vehicles be equipped with the systems, said it aims to reduce the risk of drivers losing control if accelerator electronics fail or the pedal gets stuck or trapped by the floor mat.

Toyota has made brake-override systems standard on all models beginning with the 2011 model year. Other automakers such as Chrysler Group, Ford Motor Co., General Motors, Hyundai Motor Co. and Nissan Motor Co. also offer override mechanism on some or all of their models.

The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers said it has supported the brake-override standard since 2010, when the rule was first proposed.

The alliance, which represents 12 automakers, including the Detroit 3, said it's still reviewing NHTSA's proposal and expects to offer input during the public comment period.

Rigorous standard

Clarence Ditlow, executive director for the Center for Auto Safety in Washingtoncq, said the Toyota recall helped cast a spotlight on the dangers of unintended acceleration. His group has been pushing for the regulation since the advent of electronic throttle controls.

NHTSA's success will largely depend on "how rigorous the standard is," Ditlow said.

A simple software fix won't always suffice, he added, since it will only upgrade the vehicle's existing electronic control unit. If that unit is already compromised, it won't help.

Rather, Ditlow said carmakers should consider installing a second control unit, one separate from the main electronic controls, to monitor pedal activity.

NHTSA's proposal doesn't specify how carmakers should design their override systems, only that they pass certain performance tests.

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C. E. White
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I suppose the ignition switch isn't override enough.....

Ed

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C. E. White

Perhaps they should mandate manual transmissions instead. That inherent clutch override should work perfectly.

Reply to
Arif Khokar

My car has a device called an "ignition switch" that does this. If that fails there is a "clutch pedal" which can be depressed to decouple the engine from the wheels. I advocate these new technologies be adopted by all car manufacturers.

In addition, I suggest a device called a "seat belt" which will prevent drivers and passengers from being thrown forward in case of an accident, and I am currently applying for a patent on a device called a "windshield wiper" which may make it possible for the driver to see even in the rain.

--scott

Reply to
Scott Dorsey

I've used brake and throttle to keep a vehicle from stalling out when stopped.

Greg

Reply to
gregz

I've always heard that the simultaneous application of brake and throttle are also useful in equalizing traction to driven wheels in mud and snow, lessening turbo lag and loading the chassis for handling purposes. If true, I hope those assists are taken away.

Reply to
Noone

it's just a software update on fly-by-wire cars. and some already have this "feature". pretty freakin' retarded though if you ask me.

Reply to
jim beam

the doofuses that are mandating this stuff can't drive and don't know what they're talking about. it's ridiculously ill-considered and misconceived.

Reply to
jim beam

you're not the only one. this mandate is the product of a misconceived political agenda, not an engineering agenda.

and as for safety, the "safe option" is to have everyone restricted to

30mph and wrapped in styrofoam. personal responsibility for "ability to drive" and "knowing which pedal does what" doesn't apparently enter into it.
Reply to
jim beam

org...

for once we agree on something

apparently the idiots never noticed the lever right next to the driver's chair (a pedal on the left side in the dumbed down versions)

Reply to
AD

You think they know what a manual transmittion is?

Reply to
AD

seems to me I remember that there may be some situations in which being able to apply power and brake simultaneously was desirable... just more proof that the people that think this crap up aren't real "drivers" just "operators."

nate

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N8N

snipped-for-privacy@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in news:jm7uds$560$ snipped-for-privacy@panix2.panix.com:

IMO,automatic transmissions are responsible for most if not all of the "unintended accelleration" incidents,and restricting automatics to handicapped physically incapable of operating a stick would also get most of the lousy drivers off the roads. they would be too incompetent to drive with a stickshift tranny. Further,it would keep their minds and hands too busy for cellphone and makeup distractions.

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Jim Yanik

Yep, used it myself just yesterday. STopped PU to dump on a firepile, went to pull out and found I was on a wet spot. One wheel spinning. Light application of brake got the other one going. Either the old PU never had limited slip or it isn't working.

Harry K

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Harry K

Yep. A big, red button on the dash will not cure the sudden charge over the curb to park in the store things. It happens too fast for the driver to react to it.

As we all know, most 'stuck throttle' reports are purest BS.

Harry K

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Harry K

i was looking for this:

observe: the proper simultaneous application of throttle and brake...

Reply to
jim beam

That wasn't the one I was thinking of, but that also works Even if you have LS, if one wheel is on a glass-smooth surface, the traction difference may be too much for it to work. I was actually thinking of trail braking...

Of course, there's always the fact that we're likely going to have traction/stability control made mandatory as well, which in the grand scheme of things, if it's well programmed, may actually be a positive, although I still remember driving a BMW X5 years ago on a snow covered test track and trying to spin a quick U-turn and the traction control wouldn't let me do it - I made a perfectly-controlled, slip-free turn into a snowbank, as the TC rattled and hummed and slowly brought the vehicle to a stop. W/O traction/stability control, the rear end would have kicked out, I'd have ended up pointing the way I wanted to go, and continued merrily on my way.

nate

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N8N

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:24:19 -0700 (PDT), against all advice, something compelled N8N , to say:

When it gets snowy around here, I turn the electronic stability off. It leaves me with the Quattro and the anti lock brakes, but the car doesn't go nuts trying to keep me pointed in a straight line.

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Steve Daniels

seems to me I remember that there may be some situations in which being able to apply power and brake simultaneously was desirable... just more proof that the people that think this crap up aren't real "drivers" just "operators."

nate ##################################

Is there an echo in here? It's like deja-vu, all over again.

Reply to
Noone

Which is why that I, for one, am glad that Rooney is gone.

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw

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Noone

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