S4 - not sporty enough. I'd suggest an older mint condition used S70R.
540i - get a M3 instead. No brainer.
A6 - *try* to get any work on the engine without removing it. This
killed it on my list.
The E430 - too pricey.
Want real sporty? The IS300 and M3 are pretty much it. Inline 6,
RWD, and manual(real with a clutch and linkage - no computers)
You must be first one to say S4 is not sporty. In my eyes, S70 is a family
car with some muscles, but S4 beats it back-and-forth with standard four
wheel drive and plenty of horse power. Some say it is even faster than M3.
I drove the Turbo for about an hour last October before I bought my RS6. It's
a great SUV with plenty of performance. A bit pricey, however. d;o)
Dude, if you look at the cars this guy is considering, both the IS300
and M3 are probably too small for him. Then again, the S4 isn't much
bigger. If you want a *sporty* car, and will probably blow the doors
off of most if not all the cars mentioned, take a look at the Subaru
WRX at about $25K or for even more performance, the Subaru WRX STI
which starts at about $30k....
Well, if we're open to suggesting other cars, the WRX is definately
near the top of the list. They barely modify them and go out and
well - watch Speed Channel sometime. Rally racing is nothing
short of insanity. 100mph+ down little fire roads.
Other than that, he'd probably have the look for exotics or
something used. I just figured he was looking for something
also useable as a typical family sedan, which makes it harder.
It depends upon his budget.
You reccomend an M3 and an S70R over the S4? Are you serious? And you don't
think the S4 is sporty? The S70R is a nice car, but Volvo wants to much money
for it. The S4 carries about the same price, has better performance and a nicer
interior. Not to mention the fact that the outgoing C70 and the current S80
have had numerous reliability problems, Volvo isn't the company they used to
be. The S4 is a better buy than the M3, hands down. It loses (by .02) to 60 MPH
from a dead stop, but it has a better interior (especially the front seats),
more amneities, rear doors, AWD and better track performance, period.
The A6 is a great car. But the new 2.7T S-Line isn't cheap and the 3.0 isn't
avaliable with a much needed manual tranny. If you're really interested, wait
till the new ones are out.
Not really very "sporty" either. The 5 series and the A6 2.7T S-Line both have
it beat for sporty driving. It is the most "prestigious" though.
The IS300 has great handling but a very cramped interior, a slight lack of
low-end torque and a much slower 0-60 time. An A4 3.0 Quattro with the 6-speed
will pull of 0-60 in 6.6 once it's been broken in, and you get AWD to boot.
This is a pretty funny thread... But just wanted to add to the comments
on S4- not sporty enough... Thats just silly! If we are talking about
the new one.. Um. NO. If we are talking about the 2000-2002 model.. Um.
NO. Best thing about the turbo ones, is cheap and easy to modify. Loads
of performance in there....
They are not nearly as long, which is quite distressing. Nor could
they be mistaken for a Hudson at a distance, which might spoil your
plans to attend a classic car meet. I also find that they do not measure
up on the critical "mouse-fur-seat" scale. To add insult to injury,
the makers of these so-called competing vehicles often thrust a "console"
between one and one's bitch, making the successful acquisition of in-
flight oral gratification difficult at best and painful at worst.
Sir, you will search in vain for a foreign company, run by those
stinking Jerries, which can match the reliability, interior quality,
and deft handling of a mid-Nineties uprated Caprice. For proof of
this, I invite you to visit New York City and see which one of those
nancy-boy foreign cars, if any, is doing taxicab duty. While the "E"
does taxi duty overseas, I suspect Europeans rarely vomit in their
cabs, as they typically visit a so-called "vomitorium" immediately
after consuming vast quantities of grapes and young boys, as seen in
the recent infomercial "I, Claudius".
chevy...for a bargin price you can get an old school impala SS with the
corvette engine. it will last you 300k, never break and blow the doors off
the euro cars listed. i have one and its much better than the bmw 540i my
coworker has, smoother, more torque and will throw you back into your seat
like the space shuttle. i owned a mercedes e320 shortly and i was
dissopointed in the performance and quality, i'll go with the impala ss
anyday over that...its a real drivers car.
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Don't feed the trolls. Please.
Whaaaaaaaaat?? Ha! The Impala SS of the early and mid 1990s couldn't break 7.5
seconds to 60 mph! A 1.8T Quattro A4 with the 5-speed could or at least could
very nearly match the Impala's 0-60 numbers and blow it away around a track!
Look, I've got a bunch of funky cars on my list of favorites, and I'm all for
sleeper effect. But there's honestly something wrong if you really like the
Impala as an overall car more than a 540i. Is there such thing as an aotomotive
therapist? You must have had a bad childhood experience with a BMW...
Well, yea. The E is/was a heavy car and much like the 525, is really only there
so people who can't afford the V8 can still get a mid-size car with the
prestigious brand name glued on. Hell Audi makes a 1.8T version of the A6 for
Europe, nice car - shitty performance. If you'd ever driven an E430 (or the new
E500) of the E55 you'd know it'll crush an Impala.
Are you serious? The Impala is a "real driver's car" but a 540i isn't? Houston,
we have a problem....
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