Hi all...
I took my car to a local BMW independent, this morning.
He looked at the car, and told me that it was a VANOS sound. He checked the operation of the VANOS unit, with his diagnostic computer, and said it was operationally fine. He said that sometimes the VANOS units can become a little noisy at this sort of mileage, but operationally, there was nothing to worry about.
Following this, I contacted my dealer, and suggested that the problem may be with VANOS, as I had been to an independent, and this is what he suggested. Remarkably, the dealer then said, "Oh, we have changed both the VANOS solenoids" I then said that this was the first time that this had been mentioned to me, and that I was suprised to hear it. The dealer then insisted that they had both been changed.....
I don't know how to tell if they have or not.... but it sounds fishy to me.... I've asked the dealer to put it in writing, exactly what they have done to the car.
Does anyone know if I can tell if these have been changed?? Is there any other part of the VANOS system, other than the Solenoids??
What should my next step be?? Do I let it go, because there is probably no impending significant damage (according to the Independent), or do I push the dealer?? The warranty has now expired, but the issue that I took to the dealer before the warranty expired still persists.... I've contacted BMW warranty and told them, but they offered no idea where to go from here, other than stating that I would need to pay for the cost of an investigation, and if there was no failed part found, that I would need to incur all costs!!
Any advice appreciated.
At idle, the tick is around 4 times per second, and is definately linked to the number of revs. You can listen to the tick at this page address
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I recorded this sound by pointing my microphone at the engine, with the bonnet up. The car has 95,000 miles on the clock, and 'was' under BMW warranty when I took it to my local dealer 6 weeks ago. They advised me to carry on driving the car, as the noise did not have any affect on how the car ran. However, as the car was under warranty, I wanted it to be addressed, before something does go wrong which would cost me money.
The dealership are 'clueless' with regards to the problem, and have said that unless they can find a problem that warranty would cover, I would have to pay for full investigation, and probably for the repair. This seemed strange, as it was one of the reasons which I wanted a warranty in the first place!!
Anyhow, I have started to try to investigate the problem myself, even though I'm no mechanic. I have borrowed a stethascope from a friend, and held it over the rocker covers of each side of the V8, expecting to be able to hear a loud tappet or valve lifter. There appears to be just an 'echo' of the tick in these areas. However, if I listen over the case ends (over the timing chain covers), the tick is very much louder. I'm not sure if this would be a genuine timing chain issue, or something else in this area of the engine. I've had 3 740s and a 745. 2 of the 740's had mileage in excess of 95000, (one with 130,000), and both were lovely, with no engine noise. My limited mechanical knowledge would be suprised if it were a chain issue, as I would expect a more constant 'dragging' sound, rather than a tick. (??)
Does anyone know how many chains are on this car?? My dealer tells me there are 3... (?) One for each side of the V, and one across the 2 sides.
Has anyone come across anything like this before?? Any ideas on what it may be, or what to check?? Any ideas on likely repair costs and 'seriousness' of the problem would help also.
Many thanks