Confused

I recently saw some ads by the EPA to encourage people to buy diesel powered vehicles to save zillions of gallons of barrels of oil each year.

However, looking at the CARS program, if one trades in their old diesel truck, 3/4 or 1 ton, you cannot get another diesel of the same capacity. In fact you have to get a 1/2 ton gass guzzler instead.

Who the hell put these numb nutz in charge?

GB

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GeekBoy
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Can you provide a ULR to this info? I'd like to read it, but I'm way too lazy to research it if I don't have to...

The same numb-nuts who did the 'cash for klunkers' program. I'm starting a new program: 'Cash for Congress' where you contribut to someone who will run against these idiots to get them out of office.

Anyone stop to think just how much we are indebiting our next generation with this massive load of Democrat crap?

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PeterD

I thought about it . Its about $150,000 of debt per person in the US. Born or not.

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None4U

The sad part is that they've (Washington) has not even gotten started. At least three more years of their giving away tax dollars, running up the debt, and trying to make eveyone think they are above average.

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PeterD

That makes sense........sorta...... the new diesels have so much emissions crap on them that they don't get the mileage that the older diesels do. A lot of the "green" movement is just garbage that looks good, but in reality doesn't make sense, and costs more money.

Chad

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Chad Fernandez

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Sounds like a job for me

Not the socialist, err I mean Democrats

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GeekBoy

Not compared to the older ones. Even the newer ones still put out less pollution.

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GeekBoy

Perhaps your vote? This is the cost of an ignorant voting public. Steve

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Steve Lusardi

Just think of all the trillions of debt to leave to our kids.

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Stormin Mormon

I can't prove it, of course. But I suspect major vote fraud.

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Stormin Mormon

I never voted for those morons.

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GeekBoy

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PeterD

Aww Come on now! It's been well known that Fed Gov routinely screws up anything it gets it's hands on!

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Chuck

But, the democrats are telling us that fully half the people in the US are currently below average financially! Fully half, and they (the democrats) intend to do something about it...

Well, you and I were saddled with the Social Security Ponzi scam, so this is nothing new.

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PeterD

Personally I think that most people were just too sucker and believed the crap that was given to them.

I see more and more people either scraping off their Obama stickers or covering them with something else. His approval rating is dropping, but the bottom line, we need to have an approval rating for his teleprompter because that is what is running the country, not Obama. Face it, he has not one qualification to be president, no experience in business or politics, just a radical viewpoint.

Funny how you don't see many Obama stickers on cars that are being driven to work...

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PeterD

Same here. I is not my fault. I did not vote.

But seriously, I am pissed. When did it become my responsibility to help pay for someone else car, house, business, kids, school supplies, etc. I live alone. Make all my payments on my house. Paid off my truck (2003 Silverado) years ago. Paid off my motorcycle (1998 Valkyrie) years ago. Keep both in excellent working condition. Pay all my other bills in a timely manner, even if it means I cant go out bar hopping every night. Have stuck to a job I hate for 23+ years now to stay self sufficient.

I am freaking tired of paying for everyone else!!!

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Dr.Smith

And I bet there is NO Obama sticker on your Silverado, too!

Well, 3 billion for the give people cars program, let's see, that's about *HOW MUCH* for each tax payer?

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PeterD

"PeterD" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

A new twist, to an old story!

THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER

This one is a little different... Two Different Versions! Two Different Morals!

OLD VERSION: The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed.

The grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

MORAL OF THE STORY: Be responsible for yourself!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODERN VERSION: The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building hishouse and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and playsthe summer away. Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference anddemands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed whileothers are cold and starving. CBS, NBC , PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shiveringgrasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a tablefilled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopperis allowed to suffer so? Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybodycries when they sing, 'It's Not Easy Being Green.' Jesse Jackson stages a demonstration in front of the ant 's house wherethe news stations film the group singing, 'We shall overcome.' Jesse thenhas the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper's sake. Nancy Pelosi & John Kerry exclaim in an interview with Larry King thatthe ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call foran immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share. Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity & Anti-Grasshopper Actretroactive to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugsand, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home isconfiscated by the government. The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits ofthe ant's food while the government house he is in, which just happens to bethe ant's old house, crumbles around him because he doesn't maintain it. The ant has disappeared in the snow. The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident and the house,now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the oncepeaceful neighborhood. MORAL OF THE STORY: Be VERY careful how you vote in 2010.

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Tim

On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:07:10 -0400, "Tim" wrote:

MODERN VERSION: The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building hishouse and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and playsthe summer away. Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference anddemands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed whileothers are cold and starving. CBS, NBC , PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shiveringgrasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a tablefilled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopperis allowed to suffer so? Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybodycries when they sing, 'It's Not Easy Being Green.' Jesse Jackson stages a demonstration in front of the ant 's house wherethe news stations film the group singing, 'We shall overcome.' Jesse thenhas the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper's sake. Nancy Pelosi & John Kerry exclaim in an interview with Larry King thatthe ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call foran immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share. Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity & Anti-Grasshopper Actretroactive to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugsand, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home isconfiscated by the government. The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits ofthe ant's food while the government house he is in, which just happens to bethe ant's old house, crumbles around him because he doesn't maintain it. The ant has disappeared in the snow. The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident and the house,now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the oncepeaceful neighborhood. MORAL OF THE STORY: Be VERY careful how you vote in 2010.

You left out the part where the government told the ant how free he was!

beekeep

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beekeep

"The allegory of the WILD pigs has a serious moral lesson. This story is about federal money being used to bait, trap and enslave a once free and independent people. A body of people who fought a 7-year war, The American Revolution, to establish their independence from a tyrannical king"

The Wild and Free Pigs of the Okefenokee Swamp

based on a telling by George Gordon Some years ago, about 1900, an old trapper from North Dakota hitched up some horses to his Studebaker wagon, packed a few possessions -- especially his traps -- and drove south. Several weeks later he stopped in a small town just north of the Okefenokee Swamp in Georgia. It was a Saturday morning -- a lazy day -- when he walked into the general store. Sitting around the pot-bellied stove were seven or eight of the town's local citizens. The traveler spoke. "Gentlemen, could you direct me to the Okefenokee Swamp?" Some of the oldtimers looked at him like he was crazy. "You must be a stranger in these parts," they said. "I am. I'm from North Dakota," said the stranger. "In the Okefenokee Swamp are thousands of wild hogs." one old man explained. "A man who goes into the swamp by himself asks to die!" He lifted up his leg. "I lost half my leg here, to the pigs of the swamp." Another old fellow said, "Look at the cuts on me; look at my arm bit off!" "Those pigs have been free since the Revolution, eating snakes and rooting out roots and fending for themselves for over a hundred years. They're wild and they're dangerous. You can't trap them. No man dare go into the swamp by himself." Every man nodded his head in agreement. The old trapper said, "Thank you so much for the warning. Now could you direct me to the swamp?" They said, "Well, yeah, it's due south -- straight down the road." But they begged the stranger not to go, because they knew he'd meet a terrible fate. He said, "Sell me ten sacks of corn, and help me load it in the wagon." And they did. Then the old trapper bid them farewell and drove on down the road. The townsfolk thought they'd never see him again. Two weeks later the man came back. He pulled up to the general store, got down off the wagon, walked in and bought ten more sacks of corn. After loading it up he went back down the road toward the swamp. Two weeks later he returned and again bought ten sacks of corn. This went on for a month. And then two months, and three. Every week or two the old trapper would come into town on a Saturday morning, load up ten sacks of corn, and drive off south into the swamp. The stranger soon became a legend in the little village and the subject of much speculation. People wondered what kind of devil had possessed this man, that he could go into the Okefenokee by himself and not be consumed by the wild and free hogs. One morning the man came into town as usual. Everyone thought he wanted more corn. He got off the wagon and went into the store where the usual group of men were gathered around the stove. He took off his gloves. "Gentlemen," he said, "I need to hire about ten or fifteen wagons. I need twenty or thirty men." "I have six thousand hogs out in the swamp, penned up, and they're all hungry. I've got to get them to market right away." "You've WHAT in the swamp?" asked the storekeeper, incredulously. "I have six thousand hogs penned up. They haven't eaten for two or three days, and they'll starve if I don't get back there to feed and take care of them." One of the oldtimers said, "You mean you've captured the wild hogs of the Okefenokee?" "That's right." "How did you do that? What did you do?" the men urged, breathlessly. One of them exclaimed, "But I lost my arm!" "I lost my brother!" cried another. "I lost my leg to those wild boars!" chimed a third. The trapper said, "Well, the first week I went in there they were wild all right." "They hid in the undergrowth and wouldn't come out. I dared not get off the wagon." "So I spread corn along behind the wagon. Every day I'd spread a sack of corn." "The old pigs would have nothing to do with it." "But the younger pigs decided that it was easier to eat free corn than it was to root out roots and catch snakes. So the very young began to eat the corn first." "I did this every day. Pretty soon, even the old pigs decided that it was easier to eat free corn." "After all, they were all free; they were not penned up. They could run off in any direction they wanted at any time." "The next thing was to get them used to eating in the same place all the time. So I selected a clearing, and I started putting the corn in the clearing." "At first they wouldn't come to the clearing. It was too far. It was too open. It was a nuisance to them." "But the very young decided that it was easier to take the corn in the clearing than it was to root out roots and catch their own snakes. And not long thereafter, the older pigs also decided that it was easier to come to the clearing every day." "And so the pigs learned to come to the clearing every day to get their free corn." "They could still subsidize their diet with roots and snakes and whatever else they wanted. After all, they were all free. They could run in any direction at any time. There were no bounds upon them." "The next step was to get them used to fence posts." "So I put fence posts all the way around the clearing. I put them in the underbrush so that they wouldn't get suspicious or upset." "After all, they were just sticks sticking up out of the ground, like the trees and the brush. The corn was there every day. It was easy to walk in between the posts, get the corn, and walk back out." "This went on for a week or two. Shortly they became very used to walking into the clearing, getting the free corn, and walking back out through the fence posts." "The next step was to put one rail down at the bottom. I also left a few openings, so that the older, fatter pigs could walk through the openings and the younger pigs could easily jump over just one rail." "After all, it was no real threat to their freedom or independence. They could always jump over the rail and flee in any direction at any time." "Now I decided that I wouldn't feed them every day. I began to feed them every other day." "On the days I didn't feed them the pigs still gathered in the clearing. They squealed, and they grunted, and they begged and pleaded with me to feed them." "But I only fed them every other day. And I put a second rail around the posts." "Now the pigs became more and more desperate for food. Because now they were no longer used to going out and digging their own roots and finding their own food. They now needed me. They needed my corn every other day." "So I trained them that I would feed them every day if they came in through a gate. And I put up a third rail around the fence." "But it was still no great threat to their freedom, because there were several gates and they could run in and out at will." "Finally I put up the fourth rail." "Then I closed all the gates but one, and I fed them very, very well." "Yesterday I closed the last gate. And today I need you to help me take these pigs to market."

-- end of story --

The price of free corn...maybe our liberty! "Federal welfare, in its myriad forms, has reduced not only individuals to a state of dependency. State and local governments are also on the fast track to elimination, due to their functions being subverted by the command and control structures of federal "revenue sharing" programs. [Within the story] if you use [the words] federal handouts in place of corn and [the words] people in place of the pigs - how close are the American people to having the final rail put in place?" "Just say NO to federal corn." The bacon you save may be your own."

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Stormin Mormon

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