Overfilled Oil

This whole thread is commonly refered to as a "cluster f*ck" I'm not refering to any particular poster but the thread as a whole. Poor Spiderman has to wade through a mountain of misinformation to get a simple answer. Too many people taking guesses without actually knowing the correct answer to the simplest questions. I'm not intending to insult anyone, everyone want's to help which can only be good.

It's sort of like Kubbyk299 asking what the hose is on the coolant reservoir, then going on to try and diagnose other peoples cooling problems with wild guesses.

This is the nature of humans

TaskMule. Some dipsticks ( not referring to anybody in particular here ), have stamped on them DO NOT OVERFILL.

There just _has_ to be a reason for that don't you think ?

Now I'll be the first to admitt that a 1/2 quart *over* is no cause for concern in a V6 or bigger, but it -could- be in a 4 banger.

The term the OP used was WAY OFF THE CHARTS.

Well, way off the charts means just that, that the top of the oil in the crank case is too close to the crankshaft, or has immersed it partially. This is NOT a good thing, for the reason I stated. You'll end up pumping foam instead of oil. Air is NOT a recommended lubricant in any Service Manual I've ever come across.

Regards,

Lg

I over filled my truck once...about one or two, yeah, I think two tablespoons too much...just kept pushing the dipstick in, pull it out, wipe, push it in, pull it out, wipe. It was an easy way to bring her back to level. I bet you can eliminate that 1/2 inch in a day or two the same way. (*wink*)

only once? shit man, you're slackin off

You're supposed to be in bed by 6pm. I'm going to tell your mommy. Don't forget you have dress-rehersal for the Christmas play at your elementary school tomorrow.

Lg

Cheaper? I pay about 20 bucks - How much cheaper can it be to buy the shit to do it myself? Quicker? It takes them about 20 minutes. How much faster could I do it myself? Safer? How much safer would it be for me to get under there myself? Mentally challenged? Some of them are, of course. Most have just as much mechanical ability as you! You're right, changing oil is no big deal, but look at the real world. Lots of folks are stuck with street parking, no knowledge, and no tools. Some pay because they have to; some pay because of convenience. I pay to have it done but before I drive away, I do a quick check to make sure I still have a dipstick, an oil cap, and to see that they "did" change the filter and other things they were supposed to do.

If you're going through that much trouble to second guess their work then you'd be better off doing it yourself then you would know that the above mentioned items would still be there.

In the long term.. less stress on your part having people handle your vehicle.

If you have to go through those checks when they simply do an oil change then obviously you don't trust the mechanics you bring your vehicle to. Go to another garage

LOL, It is -30C this morning. On such a day it is ALWAYS safer to get someone else to do it. An oil change is much more than the crankcase. They change the filter, grease the chassis, check the oil in the pumpkins. They have a hoist so they can take the pressure off the ball joints so they can be filled. All this takes more than 20 minutes for me (in my gravel driveway) and we have 3 trucks. At 52 years old I can think of some things I would have others do. Oil changes and exhaust systems comes to mind. I have to save huge sheets of cardboard to lay under the truck on and they don't :)

Merry Christmas one and all. Gordie

-- Best Regards Gordie

Different engines exhibit different degrees of sensitivity to oil overfill. My one data point regarding the 4.3 as installed in the S10-based Blazer is that it's not too crabby about it. At the other extreme would be the 4AFE in my mother's Corolla, which emits a faint but distinct "hey, lemme outta here!" noise at idle (goes away with any noticeable revs) if you put in a bit too much oil.

Note that if you replace oil by lining up the empties rather than by dipstick measurement, there *is* going to be some error unless you carefully let all the oil drain down through the engine and then into the drip pan.

Being in a hurry or doing it on a surface that slopes in the wrong direction -- common sins of Lube'n'Leave and of do-it-yourselfers, respectively -- are pretty much guaranteed to leave some ounces of old oil in there. This is worsened, of course, by car-manufacturer brain trusts who choose not to design oil pans such that a change with new filter consumes an integral number of quart bottles, as it usually did in days of old.

Anyway, I'm with the fellow who advised loosening the plug enough to let several ounces trickle out and then tightening it back, adding more to achieve a level no higher than the hashmarked "normal" range of the dipstick.

Cheers,

--Joe

The real problem is people don't develop a relationship with a garage, they don't get to know a shop. They take it to some oil change joint for that and pay too much, another place for ac and yet another when it isn't running right. and more than likely never the same place twice in a row.

I dont change oil. I have a shop that does that for me, I've known the owner for 10 years plus. He's the only one that has touched my truck besides myself. I bring him the oil and filter, walk across the street to the dinner, have breakfast, bring him back a cup of coffee and a bagal, pay him $20 and drive away. I buy the oil by the case and enough oil filters to go with it. Grab a couple sets of wiper blades(Florida sun is hell on blades), and couple air filters at the same time. Every third oil change he rotates and balances tires and checks the alignment, and does a brake inspection.

The alternative is drag out jack stands and jack, crawl under, drain, replace filter, shake front end down and lube, check u-joints, check diff lube level. Get it off the jack stands, fill the crank, check the power steering fluid, check the tranny fluid. drain the drain pan into a container of some kind, clean the pan, and other tools used, put everything away. Wash hands, change out of old clothes worn. And then find some place to get rid of the old oil. Still have to take it some place for the rotate, balance and alignment check.

Whiteightning

"The Nolalu Barn Owl"

Most of the oil change places use a basement "pit" as opposed to a hoist though.

Also how many of them wipe the grease nipples before applying the grease gun. usually they just jamb it on and pump sandy gritty grease into the ball joint. I once asked the guy in the pit to wipe each nipple before greasing and he looked at me like I was insane.

B

Ken Weitzel wrote in article ...

I overfilled mine once, by 1/2 quart, and just loostened the plug and let

1/2 qt out like you said. BUT I wouldnt think of reusing it, in case it picked up and particles on the outside of the oil pan.

Sure, the motor might be $2000, but putting the damn thing in is probably $5000 in that newfangled pice of s*it car. Thank got my 81 and 85 trucks arent that way.

They have those for cars too, but I have never used one in the whole 30 years that I have been changing oil. You dont even need ramps to drain most trucks, so i could drain 1/2 quart from mine in about 1 1/2 minuits max after I find my wrench.

snipped-for-privacy@pleasedontspamme.com wrote in article ...

You might want to take the filter off and drain it, but I'd put the same filter back on. They cost money ya know.

Brian

Hi...

Is the gasket on the filter meant to be re-used ?

And even if so, starting with an empty filter means another few seconds of engine running time before oil pressure, while the filter fills, right?

Ken

This thread has lost all control, lol

agreed, this thread is now to the 'jeez, get a f*cking life!' point...............

Or pre fill the oil filter before putting it on. Whitelightning

No, I think we had this discussion a while back. Glicky is just a "dean" wannabe. I thought he was gone for a while, but I guess he's poked his little ol head back up again. Drives a Ford...serves him right! He'll be in the shop on Monday bitching about his "brown" trans fluid....hopefully they will tell him to go "f*ck himself".

Ian