2002 GC Steering Noise...

The first thing to do is have the P/S system flushed and clean fluid added. Not a warrantable item

Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech

I thought maybe that was the case. My owners manual says that the P/S fluid is ATF+4, so I guess this will be a "chrysler only" flush & fill then.

Any idea what the approximate time / cost is?

NewMan wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

MY 2002 GC had a groaning whining steering issue more than once. The first was covered under the C20 recall, the ps hoses had too much curvature and over time did not hold their shape, resulting in the hose pinching and restricting the flow of fluid.

It happened again after the recall repair and they claimed the ps pump was bad and the resevoir was leaking.

With extended coverage the repair was mostly covered, but most importantly the fluid and labor were covered. :)

Mopar branded ATF+4 is available in WalMart now - cheaper than from the dealer. They also carry their in-house Super Tech brand of licensed ATF+4 for even less $$, but I don't trust it, or let's just say I'm not willing to take that risk - but that's just me.

Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')

Actually judging from the number of posts I've seen here and elsewhere in which flushing the p.s. with new fluid fixed noise problems, I'd say that was good advice.

Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')

This is what I suspect.

I had to replace a pump on my 1994, but that was at more like 180,000 kms! NOT 98,000 kms!

Then again, I did not purchase my 1994 until about 125,000 kms. So maybe the pumps only last between 80,000 and 100,000 kms! That is pretty damn bad if you ask me!

It will take me a while to get >sound like a bad pump

philthy wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@cac.net:

Glenn has been a frequent disperser of knowledge here; please don't bash him. I for one would hate to lose his assistance and expertise in this forum.

Steph,

This personal feud has been going on here for longer than you'd care to know. Glenn has shown that he can take care of himself and Philthy also contributes to this newsgroup as well.

it's the truth i know i have seen it and still do esp. were i work now sorry you don't like it come to think of it a guy comes into my shop today with a noise his van makes backing up i find a worn motor mount and a bent upwards skid plate smacking the all wheel drive unit so we bent the skid plate bac and let him go no charge and i say if it is fixed ok, u owe us 3000.00 grand if not we will need to replace that mount so it sits higher he laughs and tells me how the local dodge dealer wanted to sell him a new trans for 2800.00 then when he declines the dealer states they do it for

2400.00 the guys says no thanks and drives the van away to the local trans shop that replaces the speed sensor and it's all fixed and that was 75000 miles ago hes at 148 k now. dealer's suc thats why they try to scam maintence out of customers and the vehicles go back 3 times befire it's fixed how many times have you heard no problem found??? glen is the exception and as he becomes the top dog as i was he will be expected to fix more and more hard warranty stuff while the lower level techs get all the easy flatrate hours and he will also leave the dealer, very few techs retire from the same dealer

Steph wrote:

Did you ever get your van fixed? I just discovered I'm having the same problem :( If you got it fixed let me know what you did. I'm going to take the advice from fellow board members and try the p/s flush and new added.

Thanks

NewMan wrote:

This may be unrelated, but I have had a simular issue with both of the Dodge Neons I own (2001 and 1995). In my case, this only occurred when it was fairly cold outside. I did notice that if I plugged the block heater in, there was very little, to no noise, even at -45'C (my cars only ever get plugged in at temps below -30'C).

As I mentioned, I do not know if this totally applies to this issue, even though mine is also steering pump related.

Mike mlawrenc(at)gmail.com

snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

Not yet.

My extended warranty has a $100 deductable per invoice - no matter how much work is done. So I am looking into a couple of other issues at the moment. I will likely schedule the van in for a couple of days and get a loaner some time in the next month.

I'll let you know how it goes.

If you notice when the temperature gets cold outside the complaint of Power steering noises start to rise with the vans,convertibles, Pt cruisers and so on.And im sure other manufactures as well) The fluid does not circulate very well on cold mornings and that is the most common fix is to flush the fluid. You keep selling those pumps Dirty!!! And you keep telling people they are fixing the noise. But the real fix when you replace those pumps is because when you remove the pump you are removing the old fluid and install new fluid......so what is fixing the problem? The pump or fluid. I will give you a hint (ITS THE FLUID)

Glenn

I will see what the dealer recommends. I have no objection to a little preventive maintenance. After all, if I do that, and the noise persists, then they have NO CHOICE but to fix the problem under my warranty! Certainly not the worst that could happen. And at that point the problem would either be the rack or the pump - neither of which I would really want to pay for out of my own pocket! :)

And seeing as I likely have a van with 98,000 kms, and the original fluid in the P/S system, then it is probably good PM to flush the system anyways.

Thanks Glenn