300M Trailer questions, What is the answer?!?

OK.
So I know what trailer I want to pull with my 300m, it weighs 1400LBS.
In the 300m manual it say's I can pull up to 2000LBS.
I called Chrysler Canada and the woman who answered was not a tech but she
said from what she can tell I can pull up to 2000LBS, what is stated in the
manual.
I went to a Chrysler dealership to see about getting the hitch installed.
Basically I was told they would not do it, because the car is not meant to
pull trailers and it could damage the car. I asked why it stated I could
pull 2000LBS in the manual and the reply is that it's a book and not the
real world.
I then went to a second "5 star" dealership (much larger). I was told NO
PROBLEM. The sales rep even showed me the 300M hitch in the parts book and
told me that what Chrysler says you can pull you can pull.
So now I don't know what to do. I really want the trailer, but I don't want
to damage my car. I was going to use it a lot, probably thousands of KM's
of towing in total.
Does anyone have any experience towing with the 300M or any other cars with
the same body like the LHS, Concorde, Intrepid?
What do you think?
Thanks.
Reply to
Steve
On Mon, 16 May 2005 17:36:40 -0400, "Steve" wrote:
No experience with that model, but ask the dealer about an auxiliary transmission oil cooler. Heat is the enemy, and towing creats more heat. You will want to change trans fluid annually if towing close to the limit, and definitely change the oil frequently. Not a bad idea to run Synthetic oil either, as heat and regular oil could result in "coking" on that car. Also, except for on very level terrain you will not want to be in overdrive, and you will want to limit your towing speed to less than 100Kph (62 MPH). You will also want trailer brakes installed, and an anti-sway bar on the hitch makes life a whole lot more pleasant. Properly loaded, a weight distribution (torsion bar) hitch should not be required.
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nospam.clare.nce
Hi,
I use synthetic oil and the trailer does have electric brakes. It seems to be more of a question of the car frame bending out of shape. The first Chrysler service tech I talked to told me something about 4 bolts holding the frame to the car and it's to weak for towing. He owns a Concorde and would never do it.
It's really frustrating that they all have different opinions on the matter. I just can't see how the manual would state 2000LBS and every website states 2000LBS but for it to be an over exaggeration, What would be the point of that?
Thanks.
Reply to
Steve
Steve - This is your third thread askingabout towing with your M. I posted to one of the other threads with the following advice - perhaps you didn't see it:
"Notwithstanding worhtwhile advice you might get here, you might consider posting to the 300M Enthusiasts Club forums
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. I know at least one avid poster there (sdmike300M) has a hitch on his M. Not sure if it's removable, but certainly he can add insight to your questions on brakes, tranny cooler (it already has one from the factory, but does it need more?), and towing capacity. "I'm thinking, trailer or no trailer, that the LH cars aren't the most trouble-free as far as brakes (vibration - possibly warp-induced), so I would consider brakes on the trailer no matter what. Get Performance Friction Z-Rated? pads for the M - they are exceptional and cost no more than run-of-the-mill pads. Don't worry too much about the rear brakes - focus on the fronts - that's where the heat and problems are.
"Might also consider replacing cooling fan assembly with police package replacement (which, believe it or not is actually cheaper than non-police - go figure!). Your fans are only good for about 100k miles anyway - so if the "opportunity" comes up for replacing them..."
Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x')
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Bill Putney
Steve,
This thread on the 300M Club forums may help:
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Notice the second post (sdmike300M) - he links to photos showing the install of the MOPAR hitch.
Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x')
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Bill Putney
Hi,
I saw your post and I joined the 300M club last week but the password the president sent me does not work. I email him about it. I have also seen the photos of the hitch installed on the 300M but that person only showed it being used for a bicycle. I emailed him to ask if he used it for anything larger.
The frustrating thing is there is no definitive answer coming from Chrysler. I don't want to mess my car up over a trailer.
Thanks,
Steve
Reply to
Steve
I have used my 3.5 300M to pull my trailer for some time now. I have a removable hitch which is great because it really looks ugly with the hitch mounted :-D
Not that heavy loads though, only about 5-600 kg firewood.
JimR
Reply to
JR
Well, I don't have any direct experience with towing with an LH car- but then I wouldn't want to. Personally, I think any FWD vehicle is a very poor choice for towing, both from a durability point of view AND from a vehicle dynamics point of view. Engine braking with a FWD/trailer combination is like balancing a pencil on its tip- just not a great situation. FWD cars do 90% of their braking with the front wheels, and if you've ever looked at the rotor/caliper size on the rear wheels you'll see that they're just not going to be much help in stopping the trailer. I'd definitely look into trailer brakes, even though 1400 lbs is WAY below where you really need trailer brakes for a RWD car, truck or SUV tow vehicle. Trailer tongue weight tends to take weight OFF the driving wheels of an FWD, whereas it ADDS weight to the driving wheels of an RWD vehicle.
That said, I don't necessarily think that the owners manual grossly overstates the capabilities of the car- its not going to immediately kill it to tow 1400 lbs (by the way, that better be your LOADED trailer weight, or else you're not going to have much payload and stay below the 2000 lb limit.) Its certainly OK for flat-land towing- I wouldn't venture into the mountains with it. But a rear-drive car, truck, or SUV would be a better choice all-around.
Reply to
Steve
I hear you and agree with what you have said. The trailer does have electric brakes. It's 1450LBS with nothing in it. In the manual it says I can have 850LBS in the car, so I can put almost everything I need in the car and not add additional weight to the trailer. I would keep the water tank empty and the propane tank weighs about 40LBS full.
In an ideal world I would have a tow vehicle but that is a additional expense I don't need right now.
Steve
Reply to
Steve
In article , snipped-for-privacy@me.com says...
I would install the recommended hitch and tow. Chrysler is the one backing the warranty. If they say it is safe to tow, trust them. --------------- Alex
Reply to
Alex Rodriguez
i have put hitches a few of these cars and have not seen any issues with that just make sure yu don't tow in overdrive
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mic canic

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