I agree with others, waste of money. They come standard on SX 2.0s (Canadian Neons). We bought one. We were driving around, and they add a little light right in front of the car and around the edges, but nothing useful. We tried them in the fog and rain, useless. So he never turns them on. However they are used as DRLs in Canada, which looks kind of neat. Actually they are useful when someone turns on their high beams, because you can turn on the fog lights, flash the visual horn (hold but not click high beams) so then the fog lights, low beam, and high beam lights are on.