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Re: Drip Gas is in the news

In todays EPA world in the US, the gasoline that is pumped throughout the country is the all the SAME. Once it gets to the terminal the retailer adds what ever is required to meet the specs for the gasoline required to be sold in that area, based on altitude, environmental regs etc. Different brands add what ever particular additional additive(so) it chooses to distinguish its brand.

mike hunt

From the Net, drip gasoline > >>is "white" gas that separates from raw oil. As the raw crude is being >>pumped to a storage tank, every "X" amount of feet there is a separator >>tank in the pipe where the "drip" gas is collected. It is very volatile >>because it is, for all practical purposes, condensation from raw crude. I >>have been told that it is this "white" or "drip" gas that is refined into >>unleaded fuel. Many "pumpers" that watch over the pump jacks of Oklahoma's >>oil fields, use this unrefined drip gas in their personal vehicles (which >>is illegal)." > > It finds its way into your gasoline, particularly from "off brands." > > The reason for this post is bring to your attention that there is no > single > formula for motor fuel in the United States. This needs to be addressed. > Gasoline varies by region, climate, season, refiner and seller! You do > not > know WTF goes into your tank. No wonder when you floorboard that '70 > Trans-Am, it pings like you're running on the octane rating of cow piss. > It's drip gas the culprit. > > The solution is entirely in the hands of the Federal Government. Aviation > gasoline is made to a Federally approved formula. 80-87, for example, is > the same in Los Angeles as in Miami, summer or winter, Chevron or Union > 76. > No 80-87 aviation gas can be sold unless it strictly meets the Federal > specification for it. That's the way your auto gas MUST be refined, to a > uniform, strict formula. Then you will get uniform performance from any > pump in the Country. Drip gas will be a footnote in history. And a side > benefit, you will never, ever have fuel injector clogging again in your > lifetime. > > >
Reply to
Mike Hunter
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It's a good thing you posted this here. We will take care of it immediately. Thanks again. You may have just saved the world.

Dave

Reply to
Hairy

LMFAO!

Reply to
Bob

Not true. All gas is NOT the same.

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Reply to
Steve W.

While this might be true within a partuiuclar region, there ae regional differences in gasoline. The EPA mandates this. See

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C. E. White

I wouldn't claim that ALL gas is the same, but I would not be surprised if a given "base" gasoline of an appropriate octane rating could be turned into Mobil or Shell or Amoco or whatever simply by adding the correct amount of a concentrate containing the additives specific to that particular brand.

Example: Nor far from me is a seller of "bulk petroleum products." They have pumps with their own name on, from which they dispense fuel to trucking companies, to schools for their buses, etc. Immediately adjacent, with no fence between, is a BP gas station, and the name on the office/convenience store is that of the aforementioned seller of "bulk petroleum products."

Is it unreasonable for me to assume that the BP/Amoco gas that they sell is simply the no-name gas with the appropriate additives added.

Perce

Reply to
Percival P. Cassidy

That is true for what comes out at the pump, but what comes out of the pipeline at the terminal is indeed EXACTLY the same since EPA regulations when in effect. There is no longer something known a 'plug gas,' that was once bought off by independents. Do a search of the Petroleum Industry site and see for yourself.

mike hunt

Reply to
Mike Hunter

I am an environmental attorney who helped establish the fuel quality program for my state and currently represent several fuel distributors and dealer groups in my state.

While it is true that there many be little brand difference in the raw fuel at the terminal, it is also true that branded gas gets a special "hamburger helper" additive package for two reasons. 1. So that the brand owner can trace its product to make sure branded dealers are not taking in non-branded product on the side. 2. To meet specific marketing objectives related to characteristics of the fuel (octane and valve cleaning characteristics are most common).

But fuel coming from a refinery is very different from area to area in such significant areas as volatility, for example, to meet specific EPA mandated weather related issues to keep down hydrocarbon pollution).

The majors that operate refineries swap product so that their dealers typically get product delivered from the most economical source.

Richard.

Reply to
Richard

Good job!

Reply to
Joe

You misunderstand - look at who started this thread, then look at about 500 of his posts. Your attempts to carry on a debate just won't work.

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Joe

Reply to
Mike Hunter

Perhaps my post was not clear on the point. I suppose if I said 'what comes out of the pipeline at the terminal, in specific areas, is indeed EXACTLY the same,' it would have been better. The fact is pipeline companies no longer pump specific amounts of brand 'X' the brand 'Y' then brand 'Z' as the did before EPA regs went into effect, OK?

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter

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