Don't believe Corvette owners lies about supposed fuel economy

Probably the neocons and oil companies would still want to take over Iraq's oil. They want a law there to privatize the oil so that the companies that used to be there controlling it will have it once again. The oil workers will strike if the law passes.

Wow! Is there anything else you don't know very much about that you'd like to share with us?

Venger

:>They'll lie and tell people that Corvettes get 28 MPG, when the truth :>is that the C6 ZO6 gets 24 MPG, the C6 Auto Coupe gets 25 mpg, and the :>C6 Manual gets 26 MPG.

Husband and I averaged 29mpg last summer on a trip from Maryland to Rhode Island.

When the Corvette has so many other things to brag about, why would anyone lie about the gas mileage?

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:> you never got above an E-5... I did that in a little over one year in the Army...

Totally agree. I'm not a fan of most domestic cars, but the Corvette is definitely an exception. For a 500 hp, 7.0 liter vehicle to be able to get 24 to 29 MPG, that is impressive. That technology should be sprinkled throughout the product range. The new Malibu seems to be a a sign that (FINALLY!) GM is waking up and really thinking about the whole prodcut line, not just the king Corvette.

CD

Surprising! Things must have changed since the day I owned Vettes. My 71

454 4 speed with a 3.08 rear could never get better than 16 running around

1. In town, it was near 10.

Checked mine today and on a 30 trip, went to pickup a gun I ordered; talked to the owners widow for about 3 hours; watched a few turkeys get checked in, nice birds, and then back home. No one shot when it was warmed up and at its peak, about 8 miles without a stop sign. Warmed it up twice so to speak and got a very poor 29.2, have seen 34 on a nice day of driving non stop with a group coming back from the Corvette factory.

Jack, Al, Lawrence, and/or Sal don't know if his asshole was punched, bored, or rusted through let alone anything about automobiles.

Not everything relevant appears on Fox.

Don't believe the lies. The Audi R8 TDI has a road bending 738ft/lbs of torque and a 12 cylinder engine and yet gets fuel economy better than the C6 ZO6 on the highway, and far better in the city. It sound and looks a hell of a lot better than any redneck gm car any day of the week too. This is what a good looking car is supposed to look like not like a Corvette.

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Oh, comparing apples to grapefruits, are we?

Does the R8 TDI not even exist as a production vehicle yet? And when it does go into production, will it not cost at least twice as a much as any Vette? Oh, and finally, is not the R8 TDI a *DIESEL* motor?

I'm not knocking the R8 TDI at all. That is one advanced piece of motoring mayhem that I would just love to have in my driveway, diesel and all.

But to compare a brand new concept using un-related technologies to an existing Vette is not exactly a fair comparison. By far.

You sound like someone who would do anything, even twists facts around, to win an argument.

I suppose you beleive Hillary when she was taking sniper fire in Bosnia, too.

CD

On a 30 mile highway near my home, I indicated 36 MPG at 60 MPH, 6th gear, with one passenger. At 70 it dropped to 33.

I think GM needs to look at power to weight ratios and gear ratios to get some economy in the dogs they sell. A high overdrive in a 7-spd automatic transmission would go a long way to cutting fuel expenses.

While I am on this rant, I drove my 2000 Ford Ranger (V6 Flex Fuel, FWD, 24 MPG highway) to Strasburg, PA for a conference. We have NO Ethanol E-85 stations in Northern Virginia. I found an E-85 station in Strasburg, filled up on E-85 at $2.50 per gallon and got 23 MPG highway. Something is wrong with the oil companies in Northern Virginia - wonder if they are keeping the bio-fuel people out?

Bob

2000 C5

Well what is the mileage you folks get around town. I do not need to do a lot of freeway driving. Just stop and go up to about 45 mph.

Also bragging the the vette gets XX mpg seems like a 'so what'. Typical vette owners would not really be concerned with mileage. Seems they are going for the looks and performance.

Vito

:>Well what is the mileage you folks get around town. I do not need to do a :>lot of freeway driving. Just stop and go up to about 45 mph.

I get about 20-22 mpg.

:>Also bragging the the vette gets XX mpg seems like a 'so what'.

I wouldn't characterize it as " bragging" but more comparing the Corvette's amazing mpg against other known factors. For instance our C6 gets the best mileage of any vehicle in the family. I find that a pleasant surprise.

:> Typical vette owners would not really be concerned with mileage. Seems they are :>going for the looks and performance. :>

:>Vito

Mileage is often discussed in the online Corvette fora. Guess you really don't know much about Corvette owners at all.

Enjoy your Nissan.

:>>> :>They'll lie and tell people that Corvettes get 28 MPG, when the truth :>>> :>is that the C6 ZO6 gets 24 MPG, the C6 Auto Coupe gets 25 mpg, and the :>>> :>C6 Manual gets 26 MPG. :>>>

:>>> Husband and I averaged 29mpg last summer on a trip from Maryland to Rhode :>>> Island. :>>>

:>>> When the Corvette has so many other things to brag about, why would :>>> anyone :>>> lie about the gas mileage? :>>>

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:>>> On 21 Apr 2008 17:09:52 -0700, Jose Gaspar in :>>>

:>>> Message-ID: wrote: :>>>

:>>> :> you never got above an E-5... I did that in a little over one year in :>>> the Army... :>>

:>> Totally agree. I'm not a fan of most domestic cars, but the Corvette :>> is definitely an exception. For a 500 hp, 7.0 liter vehicle to be able :>> to get 24 to 29 MPG, that is impressive. That technology should be :>> sprinkled throughout the product range. The new Malibu seems to be a a :>> sign that (FINALLY!) GM is waking up and really thinking about the :>> whole prodcut line, not just the king Corvette. :>>

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:>> CD :>> :>

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:>> :>They'll lie and tell people that Corvettes get 28 MPG, when the truth :>> :>is that the C6 ZO6 gets 24 MPG, the C6 Auto Coupe gets 25 mpg, and the :>> :>C6 Manual gets 26 MPG. :>>

:>> Husband and I averaged 29mpg last summer on a trip from Maryland to Rhode :>> Island. :>

:>Surprising! Things must have changed since the day I owned Vettes. My 71 :>454 4 speed with a 3.08 rear could never get better than 16 running around :>80. In town, it was near 10.

Ex husband had both a '69 Cougar [ essentially the Eliminator but without the paint, spoiler, etc ] and a '69 Judge. If I remember correctly the best either of those two could pump out was 14mpg and it was a rare occurrence even at that. :)

:>On Apr 22, 12:52 am, Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:20:57 -0700 (PDT), Sal :>> wrote: :>>

:>> :>They'll lie and tell people that Corvettes get 28 MPG, when the truth :>> :>is that the C6 ZO6 gets 24 MPG, the C6 Auto Coupe gets 25 mpg, and the :>> :>C6 Manual gets 26 MPG. :>>

:>> Husband and I averaged 29mpg last summer on a trip from Maryland to Rhode :>> Island. :>>

:>> When the Corvette has so many other things to brag about, why would anyone :>> lie about the gas mileage? :>>

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:>> On 21 Apr 2008 17:09:52 -0700, Jose Gaspar in :>>

:>> Message-ID: wrote: :>>

:>> :> you never got above an E-5... I did that in a little over one year in the Army... :>

:>Totally agree. I'm not a fan of most domestic cars, but the Corvette :>is definitely an exception. For a 500 hp, 7.0 liter vehicle to be able :>to get 24 to 29 MPG, that is impressive.

You're talking ZO6 numbers here. The C6 has 405hp and has a 6.1L displacement. But you're right, the 24-20 mpg is still impressive.

:>That technology should be sprinkled throughout the product range. The new Malibu :>seems to be a a sign that (FINALLY!) GM is waking up and really thinking about the :>whole prodcut line, not just the king Corvette. :>

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:>CD

BFD, you cross posting want-a-be.......

Ah Sarah, you have shoved me into the, 'can you top this' thread.

My record was with a '57 Olds 88 with J-2 engine option. Over 400 cubes (Dad might recall the actual displacement of that block) with tandem

4bbl carbs and a chassis/frame that must have been made from a blend of cast iron and depleted Uranium. 14 mpg with a tail wind and 7-10 around town. Ate brake linings for dessert. Nice gold paint job with lots of stainless-steel trim. Smooth Hydramatic with a stall ratio that made it quick off the line (no TCC in those days except on Studebakers and Packards).

In retrospect, premium for that monster was about 28 cents a gallon, roughly equal to $3.55 in today's dollars. (I was in the top 10% of wage-earners then, with an $ 7K annual salary.)

Just filled the C5 this morning at $4.059/gal. But, after I run all the numbers, the adjusted cost (2008 dollars) of fuel/mile for the C5 is about 1/2 of what it cost to run a "muscle car" of yesteryear.

Even my old C4 produces 24mpg highway and over

21 in mixed freeway/city commuting. (Interesting thing with the C4 is that it gets better gas mileage at 75 than it does at 65). (probably a poor match of that ancient ECM to the 'performance' axle ratio @ 65mph)

In contrast, the leased FX35 that I dumped

*required* premium, got 22 highway and just under 20 when commuting. One of that car's difficulties was a crappy choice of final drive ratio. It would turn close to 3000 rpm at the highway speed limit. The C4 and C5 'vettes each run well under 2K rpm at the same speed.

The Nissan engineers missed the point that friction increases as the square of speed/rpm. More likely were caught in a marketing squeeze and foisted the car into production before they had all the necessary pieces to do it right. All of that sophisticated valve train sucked a lot of HP at highway speed and that meant poor fuel efficiency. (More parts in motion x higher rpm = more friction.)

Nissan grasped that issue and has has spent a bunch of bucks on transmission development.

Good news, if one believes in catch-up baseball!

-- pj

Pleasant surprise - or serious disappointment in the other vehicles :-)

That comparison on mileage seems a bit apples & oranges since the Ford in question is designed to a 'truck-rated' (semi-commercial) duty cycle with limited reserve horsepower and the 'vette is designed for a gigantic reserve horsepower and non-commercial duty cycle.

I've no clue as to where Corvette engineers established their, "standard-day, max continuous sustained r-w horsepower rating." I do know that they have increased it over the years. Compared to my C4, the C5 ('02) can sustain higher speeds across the desert without cooling issues. Arguably, another apples-and-oranges comparison since the C4 is auto and my C5 is manual.

The talk about E-85 and Bio fuels is nice but Bio is very limited in production potential and availability. That isn't going to change. (I feel pretty sure that when I croak in 10-15 years, I'll be able to order a chunk of steak for my final meal.)

"Alternative" fuels are fine for grad-students or hippies with a modified VW bus going cross- country. They aren't sufficient in quantity for any energy company to consider making an investment to store, distribute and market them. ..... "sorry honorable customer -- no frying oil until 6 a.m.... after McDonalds changes the fat in their deep fryers."

The distribution issues in Ethanol preclude it's use West of the Rockies unless we toss much of our sugar beet production into the game--that would raise hell with our farm commodity and beef cattle production. Flex-fuel or E85 logos on the vehicles in California are a joke. Ain't gonna happen here. The long-term, bottomline economics in these fuels--after give-away subsidies expire--make them a foolhardy investment unless something very magic happens in how they are grown and made.

Unless 90% of us immediately adopt a diet of twigs and nuts, we are dependent on gasoline and we've got to learn how to best use it. About the only way to extract ourselves from this lockstep is to move power generation to Nuclear and then power municipal travel with electricity leaving petrol for long-haul highway and airplane transport. Meanwhile, it's going to be a rough several years and we've got to just suck it up.

Alternative--set on our hands, bitch and become a fourth world country.

We are no longer in control of this. Oil and gasoline are increasingly traded on foreign markets. We now make more money exporting Diesel and other distillates (JP etc.) than by selling them domestically.

-- pj

That TDi V12 smoker has eaten ALL the luggage space!

Time for VW/audi to make a VR/WR diesel?