Is there any particular reason that you'd want to use something other than
the oil recommended by the manufacturer? Is the climate around Mount Laurel,
NJ different than the rest of the country? Just curious. Having said that,
you'd probably be safe in using any top-of-the-line brand name synthetic
After the newspaper article last Saturday regarding the low mileage
sludging problems Toyota is having--and their ways around the warranty
issues, I'd be tempted to stick by the owner's manual.
One practical difference in synthetics is foaming resistance. I think
this is probably less critical in the small-block GM engines than in
some of the "watchworks" machines out of Japan and Europe but, it's one
more variable worth avoiding. ....Paul H.
Having been on an Exxon boycott for since the Oil disaster in Alaska
back in the 80's, I refuse to use any Exxon products. Now that they own
Mobil, I refuse to use their oil products as well.
I speek from personal experience when Exxon came to us to mount piece
from the Valdez on plaques to hand out to their employee's. Not to
mention they still never cleaned up the mess they created in Alaska.
Here, here........ Bushies tried to get drilling off of my back yard in
Pristine Sugar white sand beaches and beautiful emerald green water.
But thankfully failed...... Anyone that has been on a Texas beach and seen
or stepped into the tar balls, the trash that washes up and the film on
the surf break
knows there is no way to control all the remnants that come from it....
when you deal with giant global corporations and politicians with direct
to the industry......
There was a pipeline spill outside my street back in the Northridge
Earthquake of '93, Arco was out that night cleaning up that mess.
Unfortunately I had to drive my Toy 4x4 through the oil. They cut my a
check the next day for a complete detail and water blasting to remove
any tar. They were great. They stayed 2 weeks making sure the community
was happy. They get all my biz.
Anyways... with the GM spec from the previous post I will try Shell or
Valvoline. Thanks everyone....
On or about Thu, 19 May 2005 12:18:32 -0500, RicSeyler
Hey, Ric. Drive about 40 miles west to my neighborhood and you can see
lots of offshore wells. Same sugar white sand. Same emerald green sea.
In fact, our sand seems a lot cleaner than your's since Ivan. :)
Again, you don't have to go to Texas, you can just drive a few miles
west of where you live and see that your comments are, shall we say, a
slight exaggeration? I remember 40 years ago we had lots of tar balls
on the beach here. They came from ships pumping out their bilges
before docking. If anything, offshore drilling reduces the pressure
which reduces the natural seepage. The beaches today are immaculate
compared to what they were 40 years ago before the offshore platforms
came. Where do you go to fish offshore? If the platforms were
releasing all that much trash, why would the fish love them so much?
What financial ties? That would be illegal. A president could get
impeached if it was found they had any financial tie to a corporation
and that they somehow helped that corporation. No wait. Clinton was
convicted while in office of a felony and that wasn't considered a
"crime or misdemeanor". Never mind. ;)
So remind me once again; this is the USENET group titled
Excellent quality synthetic lubricants (probably better than Mobil 1) can be
purchased from Royal Purple or Redline.
'04 Z16 Commemorative
P.S - Just because a manufacturer "recommends" a certain product doesn't
mean its the best. All it usually means is that the financial incentive is
The first time I ever saw Mobil One synthetic was when a US Air Force flight
line mechanic was topping off the oil in a DC-9 at an airbase in Japan -
that was in 1972. I figured if it was good enough to handle the demands and
heat of a Pratt & Whitney JT8D-9 turbofan it was good enough for use in
all four of my C4s. I suspect the same is true of dealing with the
"problems" of C5s and C6s....
Since my current C4 has 124,000 trouble free miles on it - and my last one
had 86K of the same - in Texas summers - I suspect Mobil One is just fine.
My '85 Mustang GT 5.0 HO ran 218,000 miles on synthetics and the day it
was totalled the engine was still tight, strong, smooth, and sweet with
compression 143 and oil pressure 42 PSI at cruise. My '67 Bug has
208,000 miles on the original engine and it runs like clockwork. Lord
only knows how long a modern engine like the LS-2 will run on that
stuff. I think any of the synthetics are so good that there's probably
relatively little difference between them.
Joel Jacobs wrote:
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I have Royal Purple in my tranny. '94 6sp Ragtop
Steve Rader wrote:
Can the dealer void your warranty if something goes wrong and you did
the Mobil 1 they specify?
With all the talk I hear about dealers voiding
warranties on cars for
mods and stuff, this just seems like it would be another
them to jump on you about
Your warranty is valid as long as the car is serviced according to
Chevrolet's recommendations using products that meet their
specifications. Of course that's not to say a flaky dealer won't act
flaky anyhow. The salient point is that it's a manufacturer's warranty,
not the dealer's warranty. The dealer just executes warranty repairs on
behalf of, and under reimbursement by, the manufacturer. In this case he
is in effect an agent under contract to the manufacturer to service the
manufacturer's contractual obligation to you. Thus the dealer cannot
void the warranty since he is not the warrantor. (Although he may refuse
to honor it at the risk of arousing GM's ire.)
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