The window on the drivers side of my van broke. We pulled apart the door
and saw that the cables that move the window are all bent up and out of
shape. I havnt been to a dealer yet because once we put the cables back it
worked until you actually try and use the window. Does anyone know where we
can get new wires for the window?
Sorry i dont know alot about cars this is just what i saw everything works
fine except for the bent up wires
Glen and Dodge owners:
I have a 98 Dodge Caravan SE ( made in Canada)
The driver's door power window has become intermittant. It moves at
normal speed both up and down when it works, but once moved, it
occassionally does not respond to the switch to go up or down.Randomly
it will start to work, or if I strike the interior door panel, or slam
the door closed, it often starts to work. I removed the control panel,
cleaned the switch connector and since that did not make a permanent
improvement, I then took all the panels off, and cleaned the motor
connector. No pitting, felt tight. Nothing seemed wrong with the
regulator mechanism, atleast visually, so I am assuming that it is an
(there was no evidence of over heating nor any burnt smell)
More then likely its the window regualtor assembly. Chrysler or who ever
makes theses parts for them cant seem to get it right because window motors
have been a problem for years on the Mini Vans and LH vehicles. The only
way to check it out is when it happens make sure you have 12 volts at the
motor. I would bet that you do.....and then while you are at it, hit the
motor with the palm of your hand as you are holding the window switch up or
down and I will bet you again it moves.
If so replace the regulator assembly. and if you take the bet. I will let
you know where to send check.
Thanks for the quick reply. I guess I will have to take the interior
trim panels off again, and probably break a few more of those odd
plastic retainer clips ! The strange thing is that when the window
moves, it moves smoothly and as quickly as the passenger side window so
I didn't feel that the regulator motor was going bad. Or is there some
sensor or other control related function in the regulator assembly ?
I've resorted to only lowering the window part way as I have found that
if I hit or jiggle the window glass that the window will work more
readily than hitting the door panel to make the window move again. OR
is it just the motor's commutator or brushes have gone bad so at
certain positions of the armature, the motor hits a dead spot ?
Thank you again for the replies. Now, I have to buy just the motor
or the motor + regulator as an assembly. What is the best place or way
to buy one. I am lazy, so I did a search on Autozone, nothing, then I
did a search on Kragen, and the had one. Is that the best comprimise ?
They seem to have many Cardone models. Is that a good brand ?
Need some advice
I found a replacement motor for $101.99 at Kragen, and also the oem
part at my local Dodge dealer for $132.25
Question, which should I buy ? The Cardone part from
Kragen(Partsamerica) has a lifetime warranty. I don't think there is
any warranty on the OEM part.
Thanks for the quick reply. They also had the whole motor + regulator
as an assembly for $215 I don't have any problem with the regulator
that I can notice, but from your experience it is advisable to change
the regulator when the motor begins to die ?
So what's your opinion on whether to replace the regulator when
replacing the motor ?
I don't want to spend more than I have too, but on the other hand I
don't want to be taking the interior door panels on and off ?
Sorry if I wasn't explicit enough for some members.
I merely wanted to know if there was a clear relationship between the
life of the motor and the regulator. I double checked with two local
Dodge dealers and the Mopar part/assembly is available as either a
motor + regulator assembly or just the motor alone. Did you check ? Why
spend an extra $70 if a regulator is not required. I don't remember
any procedures for evaluating the remaining service life of the
regulator ? DO you, harts ? I was hoping that someone would be kind
enough to share their experience or knowledge.
Well, you are taking out the assembly to get the motor out. Then you will be
spending time to R/R/ the motor. The regulator is plastic. Plastics degrade
due to heat and cold. So you are spending the time to do it, why not spend
the extra $70.00 to save at least 30 minutes of time, and have an updated
motor, and newer plastic regulator!
This afternoon, I took off the interior door panel. There were two
screws on the power window motor case's flange. Instead of the motor
popping off of the regulator assembly, the motor housing came off. I
turned the armature and disengaged the worm drive. I noticed that the
commutator looked good, no grooving. I looked at the brushes. Now I
knew why the motor occassionally worked. The brush's lead came out at
90 degrees to the long axis of the brush, and limited its stroke in the
brush housing. The brush spring was pushing the brush but its lead was
hitting the brush housing so when the brush wore down, it could no
longer make contact to the commutator. I measured the original brush
dimension as 4.43mm x 4.46 mm, almost square. It looked almost the same
size as the brushes in my radio control model car motors, 3.8 x 4.8 mm.
I took couple of strokes of a file and my RC motor brush was now 3.8 x
4.5mm. I put them in and voila, the window motor is working again. I
realize that I should have put in a 4.5 x 4.5 mm brush but I didn't
have any around the house. I lubed the armature shaft bearing surfaces
with high temperature grease so that it would not flow into the
commutator ( the bearings looked pretty dry).
If that doesn't sound like a good idea, perhaps, when it finally
fails, I will go to Autozone. I found a motor + regulator for about $79
dollars . It was the cheapest I could find, but compared to the $3.00
brushes its still a lot more.
Sorry for the delay in reply, just got back from a golf trip.
The old style window regulator had problems with the cables breaking and the
motors failing, The complete part has been updated
I had a similar problem. In my case it was the motor that was bad, but
in trying to change it I messed up the regulator, which is very easy
to do, unless you are carefull. I was told that once the regulator got
busted, you had to get a new one. about the only place you could get
one was the dealer. If you are mechanically inclined, you could
replace it yourself, otherwise have it done for you.
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