This is called anecdote. Just because you foolishly overload your
vehicle, doesn't say anything about US truck usage in general.
In my personal experience, US roads are excellent (with some
variation), and most light trucks (4 wheelers) don't get very heavy use.
Since we seem to be drifting back on-topic I'll add that in the UK at least, most
users of light trucks tend to use proper commercial vehicles rather than pickups
they have a regular need to carry heavy(ish) loads.
Like this here..... Popular with builders for example....
Ford Transit, Isuzu forward control, Nissan Cabstar, LDV and other almost
bonnetless or forward control commercial vehicles dominate the load carrying
sector between 1 ton and 6 ton capacity. Very few indeed are used for non
commercial purposes as you know. In contrast to the majority of 1 ton
pickups, these are seldom all wheel drive.
Most in the UK or much of Europe do not have personal needs for hauling
heavy loads as is common in the USA. 10,000 lb+ RV's are very common in
the USA. They tow them for recreational purposes. They don't want a
commercial grade truck to do so. They want something that is
comfortable for a family. In the UK recreational trailers are typically
much smaller and lighter and thus little need for a high towing capacity
If you have been here in Summer or in rural areas any time you will know
that there are a far higher proportion of vehicles towing over here than in
the USA. Yes both vehicle and load are lighter but the towed load is
proportionate. The loads are heavy for the towing vehicle type and that is
the cruicial comparison. Pickups of the hilux type commonly tow 6600kgs
legally and a bit more on the sly. Cars of the Ford Modeo class tow caravans
up to a ton and slightly more on dropside compact trailers.
I regularly tow 4 tons behind my Land Cruiser and old Land Rover, sometimes
over long distances and this is *very* common. There are rather stringent
rules for towing that kind of weight though and apart from certain excempt
occupations it needs the fitting and use of a tachograph and all that goes
I have been over there. I also personally know several that live in the
UK. I do not believe there is anywheres near the proportion of
recreational towing that there is in the USA. When traveling in the
rural country of England I saw a few RV's here and there but they were
very few. Everywhere I drive here, day, night, winter, summer there are
numerous RV's on the highways. Sometimes bumper to bumper. Try driving
from Palm Springs, California to Los Angeles on I-10 on the last day of
a holiday weekend. It's bumper to bumper for over 50 mile stretch of
RV's. Pretty much the same all over the USA. Until shown otherwise I'll
stand by my statement that there are FAR more RV's being towed in the
USA than in the UK.
That's up to you but you are very much mistaken. They don't start towing
these things until Easter here though. Lots of commercial towing as well
with huge numbers of livestock trailers at certain times but generally all
Thats commercial towing. Any major highway in the USA is chocked full
of commerical trailers daily year round. I'm not sure what your point
is. There are far more recreational trailers in the USA than in the UK.
Well.....I'll comment ..... my sister's place is 90 mi away and I find that a
longer drive than I'd like.
I have commuted to Cambridge though ( for about a year ) . That was ~ 46 mi ea
way. Out of peak hours travelling I hasten to add ! That would have been
impossible ( unacceptable ) in the 'rush hour'.
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 01:50:05 +0000 (UTC), firstname.lastname@example.org (Richard
Not at all out of the ordinary to commute 75 miles each way during
rush hour to and from work on a daily basis over here. A friend left
for work at 5 am every workday for almost 10 years, and returned hone
after 6PM, just to put in an 8 hour day. Kitchener to downtown
Toronto. Neighbor does the Kitchener to Mississauga trip daily -
that's just over 95km each way. Not for me!!!
I've done that but the other way. Commute to NCR in Waterloo from
the East end of Toronto. I file this under "commutes from hell"
right up there with Palos Verdes to Baldwin (spit) Park. Hour
and a half each way.
I work from home now. Commuting time is just lost and wasted
and you can never get it back.
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