US Auto makers may become extinct, caused by Unions

read again, i was adding to what tbone said, but then what does it matter. you read what you want to anyway. you would not have even noticed or commented on this exept i commented on what you said in another post, so now you are going to try to find any little thing that you can to try to show your superiority (which is a real paradox for you). you are the main example of someone here that has no interest in listening budd. you don't listen to a thing anyone says, you just keep throwing out shit until someone hurts your feelings then you throw relidion and illness into it, trying to get them to stop.

its wierd, at times you can be decent, but for the most part the last couple of months you have been a mess. maybe it is the drugs but if you know that, relax before you post.

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theguy
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More complete horseshit from you. I have no problem for people being rewarded for their efforts but thre is a point where it goes beyond a reward and into pure greed. I also have a problem when these people screw up and don't take the blame for it and expect others to take the loss for it.

LOL, another claim that you have no possible way of backing up.

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TBone

That would be everybody's ideal situation but human nature would never allow it to happen, even if technology could.

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TBone

No, you only see your side.

Yawn, more complete crap. Stop trying to blend the corporate world with the independant small business owner to support your weak arguments. Most of these corporate execs are just hired guns and have little concern about the company other than their paycheck and possible reputation. If these companies fold, big deal, they will just float to the next on on their golden parachute.

That is because in many cases they don't. They take what they want because they can, nothing more and the ones underneath them are the ones that in many cases have to bust their rumps and give things up so they can.

Na, you are just blinded by your own narrow minded greed. The thing is Miles, it's people like you that give capitalism a really bad name.

How exactly did they benefit Miles? Does your family pay union rates and supply the same level of health care as the union shops? If not, then only ones that benefited were the owners (your family).

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TBone

Gee, do you think it could because of all the "experts" that think I should be just like them, or at least be the way they think I should be?

Try it, you might like it.

ri-i-i-i-ight . . . .

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Budd Cochran

ROTFLMBO!!!!!!!! You think every CEO is like Enron's CEO?????? Bhwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!!!!!!

Gee, look at what the guy that turns down an offer to back up a claim says about another person's OPINION.

Reality check, Tom, OPINIONS do not have to be backed up with proof.

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Budd Cochran

AHA!!!! Hey, Roy, here's one of those clowns that took my report on my health and corrupted it. Now am I lying?

It's not weird that I'm decent until some clown like you starts with the insults, false accusations and other anti-social behavior. What do you expert to get from that treatment of me?

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Budd Cochran

No union ever busted a company.

JAM

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Adolphe Menjou

i really don't have that high of expectations of you in the first place budd.

and i have not been dissapointed.

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theguy

There has to be give and take by both parties.

Received about 12-20 inches this past weekend, depends where you are in 15 mile circle. Was over 50 degrees today. Supposed to be 10 above this Saturday. A very strange winter to say the least.

Roy

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Roy

I never said you were "lying". I said that I didn't remember reading it. I think (and I may be wrong) but tg just mentioned the pattern that I wrote about earlier. I'm sure he will clarify.

Roy

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Roy

Then we're even. Though I have no intention of meeting yours or anyone else's expectations. You do not have the right to establish who or what I should be.

(Sarcasm at warp factor 2000) Well, I'm happy to have succeeded.

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Budd Cochran

I don't give a fig if he does.

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Budd Cochran

No, Enrons CEO was a thief and although close, is not the same thing as being outright greedy or pushing the cost of legal bad decisions onto the workers.

There is no need and Max with all his talk hasn't either.

I don't see where you claimed this to be your opinion. It was a general statement that you now admittedly cannot back up.

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TBone

I would think that a opinion would have some type of substantiation to have any validity. But that is mo.

Roy

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Roy

No, but I have seen a owner trash a airline and screw thousands of workers. Of course he needed a little help, Reagan. End result? Lorenzo was declared incompentent and banned from the airline industry for life by the Feds. But it was too late, the damage was done. Don't believe me? Use yahoo and type Frank Lorenzo. There a horror stories on both sides, it is about time you realized that.

I'm a informed union member.

Roy

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Roy

don't worry then, i won't. i just can't find the motiviation today to go over that again. roy really did say it better than i could a few days back anyhow.

budd, i am sure you think i'm picking on you. never my intention and even though i didn't say it real "nicely", what i said was for your benefit. i said it in the hopes that you would stop and listen and realize that you have been acting real strange lately and that in your own interest, you should relax and take a deep breath. it doesn't become you. now you don't have to listen to me........i accept your right to act however you would like, i'm just saying you are acting like a putz and you may want to think about that. if you are ok with that, then so be it.

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theguy

Guess what, Tom, greed can be illegal, it's the basic emotion behind most crimes of theft.

He doesn't need the assistance and it remains his decison. You claimed the lack of binary posting capacity, so I offered to help and you turned it down. That tells me that you either do not care about your credibility or consider yourself to be superior to everyone else.

I'm sorry, I didn't know I had to write "OPINION BEING STATED" on any posts containing an opinion. Does that apply to you as well? If not, then it doesn't apply to me either.

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Budd Cochran

Whatever. Roy's one of those that has been decieved by the corruption of my report on my health.

Then take this for what it's worth: I don't need your advice or guidance on my health issues. I have a fully trained medical staff for that. Don't take a report of my conditions made in public to numerous concerned friends to be a whiney complaint, it's not.

I am being myself. I have aged since I first joined this group and that changes one's outlook and personality, live with it or killfile me. The clientele of the group has changed as well, with an increase in less sociable personalities since 1996, therefore I react differently. Killfile me or accept it.

Nor does acting like my maiden aunt become you, mother hen. If I want your advice, I'll give it to you.

How many times do I have to tell you that I will be whom I am? If you don't like it, kill file me. It's what I have said since my first day in this group.

One thing that does bug me is that you've claimed to have been in the group for a long time and you changed to your present screen name a few years back. You have refused to inform me as to who you were, even with an available email address, which, if you had used it, I would have honored a request to keep your I.D. secret.

Now you expect me to treat you like you are a concerned friend and just accept your "kind" advice. It ain't gonna happen if I don't know who you are. Now you know the main reason I don't listen to your advice about my "persoanlity changes".

If you are someone that's been around a while, then you've seen the changes in the overall tone of this group and did nothing to help maintain the once friendly, always helpful, reputation it once had. I tried and failed because of the apathy of so many, including yourself.

Fine, then realize that the apathy could be causing some of the bitterness you say I have. Look at the people we've lost, Bryon Foust and his biodiesel info, for example, and also realize it could be because of the apathy.

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Budd Cochran

oh my gosh. poor roy.

ok, thats fair. i'll let you make an ass out yourself.

budd, i don't killfile anyone. but i still don't have to accept it. i thinki'll just make fun of you instead (vbg)

i think you mean if you want my advice, you'll ask for it........and again, that is perfectly fair. i have no problem with that at all.

already addressed.

i don't remember that...........not saying it didn'thappen, but i sure don't remember it. i have no idea why you would want my email address and for that matter if you had or have asked for it, you are right, i would not have given it to you. you really got me here budd, why the f*ck would you think i would give you my email address?

again, that is perfectly fair and well within your rights.

yawn. come on, everyone has changed. it is the way of life. it will always be the way of life. doesn't mean you have to become a dick or whine about it.

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theguy

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