come on miles, get your head out. making money is why corporations
exist. that is the reason. it is not a bad reason. making money is
why unions exist to a large degree too. we are a capitalist society
and that is not a bad thing. money is not a dirty word. we are
getting hung up on issues that are not really the issue.
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:13:04 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom
read again, i was adding to what tbone said, but then what does it
matter. you read what you want to anyway. you would not have even
noticed or commented on this exept i commented on what you said in
another post, so now you are going to try to find any little thing
that you can to try to show your superiority (which is a real paradox
for you). you are the main example of someone here that has no
interest in listening budd. you don't listen to a thing anyone says,
you just keep throwing out shit until someone hurts your feelings then
you throw relidion and illness into it, trying to get them to stop.
its wierd, at times you can be decent, but for the most part the last
couple of months you have been a mess. maybe it is the drugs but if
you know that, relax before you post.
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 05:18:46 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom
don't worry then, i won't. i just can't find the motiviation today to
go over that again. roy really did say it better than i could a few
days back anyhow.
budd, i am sure you think i'm picking on you. never my intention and
even though i didn't say it real "nicely", what i said was for your
benefit. i said it in the hopes that you would stop and listen and
realize that you have been acting real strange lately and that in your
own interest, you should relax and take a deep breath. it doesn't
become you. now you don't have to listen to me........i accept your
right to act however you would like, i'm just saying you are acting
like a putz and you may want to think about that. if you are ok with
that, then so be it.
Whatever. Roy's one of those that has been decieved by the corruption of my
report on my health.
Then take this for what it's worth: I don't need your advice or guidance on
my health issues. I have a fully trained medical staff for that. Don't take
a report of my conditions made in public to numerous concerned friends to be
a whiney complaint, it's not.
I am being myself. I have aged since I first joined this group and that
changes one's outlook and personality, live with it or killfile me. The
clientele of the group has changed as well, with an increase in less
sociable personalities since 1996, therefore I react differently. Killfile
me or accept it.
Nor does acting like my maiden aunt become you, mother hen. If I want your
advice, I'll give it to you.
How many times do I have to tell you that I will be whom I am? If you don't
like it, kill file me. It's what I have said since my first day in this
One thing that does bug me is that you've claimed to have been in the group
for a long time and you changed to your present screen name a few years
back. You have refused to inform me as to who you were, even with an
available email address, which, if you had used it, I would have honored a
request to keep your I.D. secret.
Now you expect me to treat you like you are a concerned friend and just
accept your "kind" advice. It ain't gonna happen if I don't know who you
are. Now you know the main reason I don't listen to your advice about my
If you are someone that's been around a while, then you've seen the changes
in the overall tone of this group and did nothing to help maintain the once
friendly, always helpful, reputation it once had. I tried and failed because
of the apathy of so many, including yourself.
Fine, then realize that the apathy could be causing some of the bitterness
you say I have. Look at the people we've lost, Bryon Foust and his biodiesel
info, for example, and also realize it could be because of the apathy.
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:19:49 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom
oh my gosh. poor roy.
ok, thats fair. i'll let you make an ass out yourself.
budd, i don't killfile anyone. but i still don't have to accept it.
i thinki'll just make fun of you instead (vbg)
i think you mean if you want my advice, you'll ask for it........and
again, that is perfectly fair. i have no problem with that at all.
i don't remember that...........not saying it didn'thappen, but i sure
don't remember it. i have no idea why you would want my email address
and for that matter if you had or have asked for it, you are right, i
would not have given it to you. you really got me here budd, why the
fuck would you think i would give you my email address?
again, that is perfectly fair and well within your rights.
yawn. come on, everyone has changed. it is the way of life. it will
always be the way of life. doesn't mean you have to become a dick or
whine about it.
Thank you, and thanks for setting the example so I can be a complete one.
So you enjoy or gain some vicarious pleasure out of making fun of people's
limitations and health problems . . .you are the one that is sick.
Nope, I said what I meant. I don't want your advice. Quit spinning and read
what is written.
I don't want your email address. Gawd, you spun this right around opposite
of what I wrote. Can't you even read?
I had asked you to let me know who you were to see if you were someone I
knew and you could have used MY EMAIL ADDRESS AND ASKED ME TO NOT REVEAL OR
KEEP YOURS AND I WOULD HAVE HONORED THAT REQUEST, but you didn't so you are
now no one, as far as I'm concerned.
Not according to those that keep telling me I'm (insert preferred derogatory
term), like yourself.
More apathy . . . .
Doesn't mean you have the right or responsibility to "correct" anyone
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:31:05 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom
that was a joke budd. just trying to lighten things up. look, in
reality you are absolutely correct. you have the right to be who you
chose to be. and i don't always package what i say so well. one of
my big shortcomings is patience. i wich i had some, i try but it is
my weakness. i see several people here try to help you. from my
perspective it looks like they are really trying to hlep
you.........just to help you out. you just don't want to look or
listen...........so i make it worse by getting pissed as you and
saying what i have to say in a shitty way. i honestly apologize for
the way i say some things. i do not apologize for what i said budd, i
said it because i hoped you would listen and it would help you
out........but again, i am impatient and i say it poorly. that
doesn't help. in the end, you are who you chose to be. i am not on a
jump on budd deal so this is it for me. i do wich you the best and i
hope it isn't too late when you do decide to stop and listen.
I didn't find it at all funny. If you were someone I knew well enough to
accept the teasing, maybe I could have seen some humor in it.
Think on this: I've met Denny and we can tease each other quite a bit, I've
met Bryon Foust and we used to tease quite a bit, Nate and I got to know
each other by email and have teased considerably, Max and I got to know each
other in the "Great Torque Wrench Debate".
You have decided to hide yourself behind a screen name, and your past
treatment of me doesn't give me the freedom to accept it as levity.
Generally, I can get the gist of your posts. You're not as bad as some that
have driifted thru here.
I appreciate help, I do not appreciate condemnation / abuse for having
reported my conditions to friends that ASKED ABOUT ME.
Odd, I'm not angry. I am tired of you and others trying to tell me how to
behave, making fun of my medications / health issues or what kind of person
I should be.
Conditions on an apology destroys the apology . . .I think you said that to
me at least once, or words to that effect, maybe it was someone else, but it
It helps to know who is trying to help so you can determine if they really
care or just being nosey and manipulative.
I don't know who the heck you are and you don't want anyone to know.
That destroys your credibility about giving me health advice, and severely
limits in in other areas. That is because of your choice.
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