$65,000 A Year? Bye, U.S. Auto Workers!

2080 is the normal 40 hour work week per year including vacation time . Over eight and over 40 hours are overtime as well as the overtime premium paid for holidays worked

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter
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You only wish he was as good to you. You forgot to sign Idiot to your post this time I see but we know it you LOL

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter

When did he tell you that? LOL

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter

Dizzy,

I made no mistakes.

40 hours a week times 52 weeks a year equals 2080 hours worked, base pay. Read your check stub to make sure your boss is not ripping you off.

7.65% is any employers FICA contribution foreach employee, just call your payroll department. You should know what your boss takes out of your paycheck,eh?

As far as my "well over" comment, fringe benefits are paid for by your employer, that cost plus the cost of your hourly wages combine to make the total cost the employer pays the employee. Your payroll department and/or your union rep should have explained all of this to you when you began your employment. In the case of the $51,000.00 base hourly wage, these other costs will account for the total cost being over $65,000.00

Frank

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Frank from Deeetroit

Frank, Dizzy has once again demonstrated that his News Group name is well-earned! *lol* Methinks his name was chosen by the group members, based on the quality of his comments!

Reply to
Cool Jet

Did you ever consider telling your daughter "NO!" when she asked you to pay $11K per semester for college? You can buy an equally thorough liberal indoctrination at much more reasonable rates.

Where did I get that amount? From conversations with my relatives and friends from high school.

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Sean Elkins

Reading comprehension problems, Richard? I wait until AFTER they fall then WALK to them.

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Sean Elkins

giant snip

Nope, I'm generally a conservative, although I do take what might be called very liberal stands on civil rights and freedom of speech. What I am NOT is an idealogue or partisan extremist.

You obviously despise all Republicans---one wonders if you are completely enamored of all Democrats? Or can you see that both parties leadership exists only for the purpose of self-perpetuation and that both parties contain some fringe factions that don't reflect their average members?

BTW, felony charges don't only happen to Republicans. That pendulum just happens to have swung to the right at the moment.

That last sentence was completely inane and totally non-responsive. In your world does 2 +2 = fudge?

So you live in the fifth largest metropolitan area in the US and your wages aren't sufficient there? Have you considered living somewhere else besides the fifth largest metropolitan area in the US? Maybe you can earn a decent living elsewhere.

If I lived in a toilet I wouldn't have the right to complain about the smell. If you live in an area that is beyond your means then perhaps you should relocate to one that isn't. They do have U-Haul in your town, don't they?

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Sean Elkins

How do you like the Zephyr compared to the Lincoln LS?

Reply to
Ray O

I am beginning to see that, feel bad to have a battle of wits with an un-armed individual.

Reply to
Frank from Deeeetroit

Flip flopper.

I can't stand it when crooks take my hard-earned money and sign multi-million dollar pork barrel projects in exchange for hundred of thousands in campaign contributions.

Point? none.

Republicans are completely in power, proving the assertion that 'absolute power corrupts absolutely'.

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Learning Richard

mm NO that's NOT my opinion- it's from DIRECT and factual experience from WORKING IN THE FACTORY and with management itself... How are you going to tell me that I don't know that the quality control standards are for a place that I WORK FOR? I saw what went on, on the lines (which I worked also), in multiple departments 12hrs/day 6days/wk

365/days/yr. I was also part of the quality control group that delt with defective parts from numerous production lines etc... I KNOW what I'm talking about. Not to rub it in your face or anything, but come on guy, think before you post something like that. Even the janitors that work in said factories know a much more about what goes on that someone reading over hyped reports in the mass media etc. Try talking with people that see what goes on and over hears management making all kinds of strange and shady deals to cut production costs and increase profits, at the detriment to the buyer. Either way, I no longer give much of a hoot about the whole thing. It's a classic case of what's wrong with this whole ultra-aggressive-pro-capitalism hegemony- selling out the citizens of this country for the almighty dollar. Hrmm I bet that last statement will spark up more noobish rants and tangents... haha good day.

Wait... on second thought... GM, Ford, Chevy etc... they actually can and could make some quality products, but the stigma of "cheap and profitable" patriotic ideologies are holding them back. Ford's GT40 remake (even though it uses a super charger), Chevy's Z06, aren't exactly my fav sports cars, but they are a testament to the quality standards that they COULD impose on lower tier models and and ideology they should start forcing the rest of the world to see: that indeed they CAN and WILL start producing world competitive and possibly leading automotive technologies. It's a matter of shaking off that old iron-worker methodology of lower quality, mismanaged, all-for-profit mass production Vs mass production, higher quality, and Sigma Six management style accountability. blah blah blah blah...

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JayR

This is true. If the price of gas is still 99 cents a gallon, honda and toyota would be non-existent.

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t

Don't believe that. That's a bunch of lies. They (exxon and all the rest) want more profits.

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t

Do you believe the oil companies can control the prices, outside the market forces, to increase their profits? If they actually could do that the price of gasoline would never go down, it would only ever go up. ;)

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter

If companies did not continually want more profits, they would do a disservice to their owners (shareholders) and lose their reason for existence. Don't blame them for doing their duty just because you are not smart enough to own their stock.

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Mark

Mark wrote:

(Okay time to start throwing a little mud...) ;-)

...Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the true and ETHICAL PURPOSE for starting, maintaining said business was to PROVIDE A SERVICE, from which you make profits to CONTINUE providing that service.... Not providing whatever service, JUST and SOLELY to make profits for the owners/shareholders etc? That's the problem with these faceless and greedy corps. Since there's hardly any 1 person to place the blame, they become profit oriented ONLY and they forget or ignore their whole function/purpose... that being- PROVIDE A SERVICE for consumers to consume... Not make PROFIT of those that own/run the corp. The profits are the END sum of providing something of worth. NOT the end all end of why you exist. If that were the case, then why don't the leaders of said corporation just start up their own Britt World Wide "legal" "pyramid" scheme, which basically provides little service at all, except making money for an elite few and relying on the REST of the masses to keep them rich? So... if said corp made say ~2.5billion/yr in profit, and could NOT make anymore than that; do you think for 1 minute that some people wouldn't be trying to figure out how to make MORE, and then MORE and MORE more more more every year, yet providing the same service... hell eventually they would just LOVE for you and I to pay them for little if NOTHING at all! lol Just give them money for being another faceless-corporation, b/c "they" (who? The elite few) are (and or feel) entitled to living the way they want to live...... USA = continent of sell outs. The people that run this country and these corps, don't give a crap about the masses and families that make up their corps. They'd ship 90% of our jobs overseas if they could for MORE profit... Geehs. This is what I love about this brain washing of the middle and lower classes. People with no, or hardly any affluence sticking up for these corporate clowns. These people don't give a shit about you nor I. But somehow the mindless middle class dreamers are conned into believing that they TOO are going to make it BIG BIG BIG and become some affluent, worldly traveled millionaires. HAHA Yeah right, better start playing the lottery! All the while distancing themselves, hating and belittling the people in their own socio-economic class, as if, they are better somehow b/c of their wanna-be affluent day dreaming? Better check up on who you elect - for they (the elected ELITE) don't give a crap about you, nor what your living-check-to-check-lifestyle / class cares about. Wanna-be Republicans you are! Haha or should I say (r)epublicans, because all you are and are going to be to the REAL elite, are little r's. Shit, out of you so-called reps, HOW many of you have been or were invited to a nice $5000/plate dinner to discuss the party's current status and future? ZERO! I'm going to make that bet... Therefore, they don't give a squat about YOU, nor your ambitious day dreams. And YOU are NOT a real/true "Republican." Last time I checked about family values and all this other capital "R" political soap boxing - the country is even MORE divided on issues AND actual policy of education, class, health and overall welfare than EVER in the history of it. So much for Republican leadership paving the way for a united, well-being, and worldly respected United States of America... HAHA! Lastly... the Dems aren't exactly a party of honest Johns either... but they haven't shown their hegemonistic side like the big Reps at the moment. Haha stay poor little republicans!

---Workers unite!

Reply to
JayR

The philosophy that led to my fortune was to follow the business theory that says if one starts a business they must make a product, or offer a service, that will attract new and retain current customers. If one does that, profits and growth will follow. If not you will eventually go out business, period.

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter

Your ignorance is so profound I don't even know what to say to begin to educate you. Try taking some basic business classes. If companies offer a good or service that is in demand at a price people are willing to pay that is above the cost of production, then they tend to make money and stay in business. If they don't then they tend to go out of business.

Try to remember that the wealth created by those with personal ambition and drive is what creates the money the politicians steal from us in taxes to drive the welfare state. It's funny how the Libs love to complain about "big business" and the success of those with a better idea, but they are always looking for more ways to steal from the "wealthy" and distribute that wealth to buy votes from the poor.

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Mark

The top Libs -- Kerry/Heinz -- are "weathly".

I think they invented welfare to keep ambitions down and protect the Old Money.

Republicans are new money and respect drive and entrepreneurialism.

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John Bailo

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