Can Anything Stop Toyota?

In news: snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com, Thomas Moats being of bellicose mind posted:

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Do I THINK the "average driver does not know when they are doing at least 90." ?? If you read the article(s), you would have read that some people just flat out admitted they got caught up in the 85+mph flow and did not realize it. I have noticed that most people stop tailgating you at 85 mph. A few will come around at 90 just to be out in front but .... fall back to 85 again. During the past 5 yrs, I travel out to Victorville and back every 10 days or less .... both sides of Cajon Pass. Been driving rigs over that same area (less frequently) since '88. My own experience supports the observation of increased speeds overall on both downhill sides. If you're REALLY that distrusting of my experience and if "average speeds" really means that much to you then.... find your own link to a recent traffic survey of the area. I don't have to do your busy work. Happy Thanksgiving

Why did you internalize the remark: "A full sized adult means an increasingly OBESE adult" ?? This is a fact that you agree with. The remark remains valid despite your inference of something less tangible. Ever go shopping in a Full Sized men's store? What sizes do you think you'll find in a Full Figured woman's store? Hmmmm? ;-)

For what Florida lacks in INTERESTING elevation, drivers have to make up for with straight line speed or 'g' forces. LOL

Actually, car companies do test their vehicles. "NOBODY tests anything anymore" is an incorrect assessment of the current automotive industry.

That definitely explains all the SUV recalls in the last few years, where mismatched sets of tyres mashed differentials, the Ford Explorer fiasco, Jeep CJs tipping over in tight corners, GM rear brakes failing after

50,000kms, the Cadillac Northstar emissions fiasco, the Optispark distributer sucking in moisture issue that only got corrected in '95, the BMW Nikasil block issue, plastic manifolds that crack in 100000 miles, the GM Dexcool 3.4L V6 issue, and all the other ones we don't know about.

Let's rephrase: Bare minimum testing rather than no testing. At the rate that they push these things to market, is it any surprise? Please tell me that it is.

It's a shame too, because I remember the old Panther platform Fords and B/D body GMs holding far more than an SUV and getting better mileage to boot.

In North America anyhow... there are still places in the world where obesity is ridiculed, thank God.

Guess that's like the "cool and collected" fellow trying to get out of his underwater car.

Something I do not buy. I'm not that gullible.

That's a rarity.

Yup, see that all the time. Happens at just about any speed where more than one vehicle in on the road.

Your idea of "average" is based on a real small sample, not true data. The fact is you said those articles support your "fact" of what the average speed is. Don't like it that I disagree or question you? I couldn't care less.

Whom did they admit that to??? What else did you expect, the truth, like going at 85MPH is a very safe speed to go at without the slight effort on either you or the car, besides shortening the trip? ;-)

Only if you believe that McDonalds should be sued for fattening innocent people...

You buy into the hype ignoring that good nutrition before making people fatter make them taller, particularly during the earlier years. My point is that at 6'5" I don't consider myself much taller than the average of the people I have contact with, yet I sit very uncomfortably in an Explorer, with the knees pointing up even at the front seats. I can kiss goddbye to the back seat of most mid-size cars.

Only very fat people would have problems width-wise in most cars. Someone who's 30% over weight is hardly wider than someone fit.

Obesity is only cherished in very poor countries, usually implying someone is rich... This has been so as early as the Egyptian pharaos.

There are more obese people in America for the same reason that are very few of them in Ethyopia. :-)

I can tell you this much. After practically pushing my mom's Ranger to the lot for a trade in, 2 vehicles with cracked head gaskets, major suspension problems on a 40K Expedition, and my dad's 4.0 litre V6 Ranger that has about as much pep as a turtle. I've seen all the Ford products I can take. Maybe you Ford owners can play with the "non-boring" little gadgets inside the car while waiting on a tow truck. As for me, I'm sold on Toyota quality.

I'm going to ask someone to *fwap* you, Philip!

You damned Californian's keep to your 'fruit and nuts' life style and leave us alone .

Scott in Florida

In news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, Scott in Fla being of bellicose mind posted:

Hmmm. Scott (h*mo)sexualized the lack of paved elevations in his home state. Why did you do that, Scott?

In news: snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com, Neo being of bellicose mind posted:

Oh Oh.... are you going to tell some good Ethiopian jokes? ;-)

In news: snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com, Thomas Moats being of bellicose mind posted:

I have not offered my guesstimate for average speeds on this section of interstate. I have also NOT said either article supports any "average" speeds. The obsession with "average" speeds is entirely yours.