Well FORD shot themselves in the head and expect us the USA to bail the out.
For years we have been saying.."Not everyone wants a TRUCK..", but not one
listened. The Gas crunch this year really was a wakeup call. Only Ford is
still sleeping because they had no cars to answer the call. Just about every
other automobile company invested in cars, Ford continued to ignore that
segment and focused the majority of its resources on TRUCKS.
How stupid do they think we in the USA are? While the USA provided the bulk
of Ford revenue, we were getting the left over, last years model, the crap,
while Europe and the rest of the world got the cream, the main course. Now
we talk and vote our pocket book... For the first time in 50 years, in
2007( I am the last hold out) no one in my family will own a Ford, and I am
not shedding a tear.
Ford does make some good cars, but, they most always come to us after they
have been out in Europe for years, sometimes they never make it accross the
While the Fusion appears new to US buyers, the car existed in Europe as the
Mondeo many years ago, same for the Focus. In fact the latest Focus which is
a really great-world class car is not expected to reach the US. As for the
500, how much of an improvement is it over the 1998 Taurus, one of the BEST
Model year for the Taurus, except for size.. The 1998 Taurus offered the
same 3.0 V6, 24 valve engine, 4-wheel disc brakes, sharp handling. While
the 3.0 V6, 24 valve engine is OK for Taurus and Fusion, it is inadequate
for the 500. These cars are going up against a formidable competition from
Honda, Nissan, Toyota and Chrysler, even Hyundai. And don't forget the Ford
cars in Australia, they are World class cars that we will can only dream
about for now.
Remember, people vote with their Check book, pocket book or what ever you
want to call it, and the vote is going against Ford and all those other
companies who think they are smarter than the average Joe.
You are confused, the Fusion is built on a different chassis than the
current Mondeo. The first version of the Ford designed chassis was used by
Mazda. The Fusion currently uses a stretched, wider version of that Ford
I guess you think changing a few items makes them different. You are so out
of touch with what is going on in the design studios and the real world that
it is not funny. It does not matter how many different ways you cook SPAM,
it is still SPAM, not beef. Get your head up out of the swamp water and
breathe some fresh air...!
That may be your personal opinion but actually this is not the first time
Toyota sales figures, for a single month, were greater than those of Ford.
Toyota outsold Ford in for one month is 2005 as well, but Ford far outsold
Toyota for the model year 2005. Year to date, GM and Ford are still far
ahead of Toyota in total sales. Ford truck sales are down because there
simply are not that many 2006 Ford truck models leftover. January will see
a marked increase in Ford truck sales, as corporate fleets place their 2007
orders to replace the Ford trucks they now own.
As to Fords cars the Fusion, Milan outscore the Camry and Accord in several
surveys of new car buyers. CR report more of it readers preferred the
Fusion and the pointed out the reason ay be that the V6 Fusion sells for
thousands less than the Camry 4cy.
As to American buyers desire for light trucks, GM truck sales were up for
the month and GM sold almost as many trucks alone in November as Toyota sold
trucks and cars for the month of November. For the year GM, Ford and
Chrysler have sold more trucks ALONE than anything any import has for sale,
cars or trucks. The best selling vehicle in the US is the Ford F150 and
has been for nearly thirty years. The three top selling individual vehicles
in the US are not cars, they are Ford GM and Chrysler trucks. The major
portion of increased sale for Toyota and Honda, over the past five years has
been in light trucks sales that includes SUVs, not in cars, as well
Typical, you like to see what you want to see in what you read. What my
post actually said was: "As to American buyers desire for light trucks, GM
truck sales were up for the month and GM sold almost as many trucks alone in
November as Toyota sold trucks and cars for the month of November.
For the YEAR! GM, Ford and Chrysler have sold more trucks ALONE than
anything any import has for sale, cars or trucks. The best selling
vehicle in the US is the Ford F150 and has been for nearly thirty years.
The three top selling individual vehicles in the US are not cars, they are
Ford, GM and Chrysler trucks."
If you think Ford as a lot of leftover trucks, do you own homework. Call a
dealer and try to get a 4X4, a supercab, crewcab, F250 or a diesel ;)
Toyota, and especially Honda, truck sales are an afterthought, in full-size
truck sales. The Ridgeline is no more a truck than the Subaru wagon with
the cargo box
Why anybody would like to see an American Corporation, and all of the
hundreds of thousands of those that make a living because of that
corporation, be in trouble because of forces beyond their control, seems
awfully strange to me. It is not a ballgame.
You obviously prefer Jap stuff sold by a corporations that take all of the
profits out of the county tax free, and pays its workers, from the guy that
sweeps the floor to the new car salesman very poorly in comparison to the
domestics. That's your business, spend your money where you wish.. I bought
several Jap cars in my time as well until I got smart and realized I could
buy good dependable domestic brands for thousands less.
For buyers of other brands to post in another brands NGs, to get a high in
their apparently dull life, does not provide a service for anybody. If
Toyota ever outsells Ford or GM, good for them, but no mater how you would
like it to be, one month or one model does not make or break annual sales
figures. For now Toyota is still number three in the US, and most likely
will remain number three for some time.
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True, and Ford just came out with the Edge which leaves me baffled.
Perhaps the see it as an upgrade for their truck based SUV buyers?
Ford just can't seem to adjust to reality fast enough.
Not all is well with Chrysler, they did increase sales (probably because
of the Caliber), but they have a huge inventory of large vehicles from
Also GM is gaining by selling cars from Korea, not doing much for local
Apparently you do not follow buyer trends in the industry. Indeed total
light truck sales in general are down, although GMs light trucks sales are
currently up, the growth in the market is in AWD cars and Crossover SUVs,
not cars in general and that is where Ford has put their money. The 500,
Montage in 2006 and FIVE more for 2007. The 2008 Town car replacement will
be AWD only, as well.
The largest percentage of growth for Toyota in the US, over the past five
years has been in light trucks, not cars, in the Toyota and Lexus brands.
The addition of the Scion brand has helped their car sales, however. It
should be noted although the Camry is the number one selling car, the F150,
Silverado and Ram sell in much greater numbers. The year that was the
highest recent year for sales of the Camry, was back in 2004.
The Japs are more concerned about the new Korean stuff, that competes with
them more directly, taking their market share in any event.
I guess your are glad GM does not combine Chevy and GMC truck sales.. You
forgot about the Vibe, do they count? Toyota is going to build cars in
China for export, hoping to cope with the Koreans LOL
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