Well, we do pay less in Canada! Each province has it's own medical plan,
governed by the Canada Health Act. There is an economy of scale, when
millions of people pay into it, and it is run as near to break even as is
Here are the monthly premiums from the BC MSP webpage:
In B.C., premiums are payable for MSP coverage and are based on family size
and income. The monthly rates are:
$54 for one person
$96 for a family of two
$108 for a family of three or more
Finding a doctor is not as big a problem as you might think! It's harder in
the North, and small towns. As a 3 times cancer patient, I have more than
the usual experience with the system! It has worked well for me. Those who
do not have a family doctor, can use a walk in clinic, or present themselves
at emergency. In my small town, the doctors have two offices, which have
walk in services on weekends. They alternate the service, so that there is
always one open on Saturdays and Sundays.
Of course, I never said the government should pay. I just don't want to buy
a new car and have to pay $1200 for the retirees. There are other ways of
handling it. No, I have nothing against making a good wage, having good
benefits, but the unions and the big 3 have just kept on dishing out the $$$
in one form or another.
Guys all this comes back full circle to the opening post. Chrysler, Ford,
and GM need to design and build vehicles, not just Trucks, that people want
to buy again, and again. If they do, they will halt the slide of their
market share, and maybe even recover some of the points they have lost. It
is a fact that the cost of everything is, and will continue to rise, and the
only out will be on volume...simply sell more. But if people do not see your
offerings as attractive they will not buy, and simply look elsewhere. There
is a lot of anger out there towards american cars, and I do believe much of
that anger can be neutralized. Because despite everthing, there are also
lot of people who still believe in Chrysler, Ford and GM. So how about it
"Chrysler, Ford and GM" will you PLEASE give us something we can come back
I agree completely. most of the stuff GM builds screams "rental car"
and the few models that don't are either high-dollar cars like Caddys or
specialty cars like the 'vette. And, of course, they're still trying to
sell rediculously oversized SUVs and pickup trucks when everyone knows
that small cars are going to be the wave of the future (at least to
anyone who cares about the environment and/or lives in a city where
space is at a premium.) Back in the late 60's and early 70's GM built
cars that didn't feel cheap or fall apart after 50K miles and that is
why they sold so many. I'd gladly trade my company Impala for my dad's
old '67 Cutlass any day of the week, and never look back. Can't I just
please have the option of a small to mid-sized RWD American coupe/sedan
that is practical enough for work/family and yet still has good
handling, decent power, feels solid, and is trimmed in materials that
don't scream "low bid" for a price that real Americans can afford?
replace "fly" with "com" to reply.
I bought a new car last September. My goal was not to buy or not buy
American, my number 1 priority was to buy what I thought was the best
vehicle for me, to fill my needs. Country of origin was not a
I looked at and test drove a few American cars, mostly GM. They did not
satisfy me, so I went elsewhere. I truly hope that the US car makers do
make some radical changes in their offerings. If so, I'll be back.
Meantime, I did at least put some US employees to work assembling my car
Why then do so many Americans buy cars like the Camry that sell for much
more, yet the employees in their US plants receive an average of $14 an hour
less in wages and benefits and their foreign employees even less? LOL
Probably because they are willing to pay for a car that has a better
reputation for quality and better dealer service behind it. This is
not rocket science. If GM wants to be competitive they need to develop
their own reputation, and come out with some more appealing products,
not simply by cutting costs (although it appears that they will have to
do that as well.)
Mike Hunter wrote:
You forgot to say in my opinion. Those millions of folks that bought all of
those GM cars in 2006 obviously do not believe as you do, or they would not
have purchased them. As for me personally, I wonder where are all these so
called inferior cars? I have not had a bad car, foreign or domestic, in
more than twenty five years. From what I see all manufactures are building
good reliable stuff today. The only real difference among them is style
and price ;)
And the millions of folks that bought non-GM cars apparently agree with
There's one sitting outside my office right now. $23K sticker and it
looks like a rental car.
Then you're not very discriminating. The difference in driving
experience between an American car (even when brand new) and a
comparably priced German or Japanese car is very pronounced.
Then you're not very discriminating. The number of rattles, clunks,
and other bad noises emanating from my "good, reliable" GM car is
rather alarming at only 30K miles. Had I bought it with my own money
I'd be royally pissed. Not to mention the simple design and/or
construction glitches like the parking brake that makes you catch your
shoe on the kick panel to release it (and doesn't work anymore anyway,)
the wipers that run off the edge of the windshield, and the poorly
designed doors that not only make egress difficult but have a
perturbing tendency to swing shut on you while you're attempting to get
out of the car. Oh, and the "keyless entry" that requires that you
push the "unlock" button 4-5 times to unlock the doors, despite the
fact that the lights flashed the first two times you pushed the button,
therefore whatever little receiver was supposed to receive the signal
obviously received it. (especially fun when you're in a hurry and it's
raining.) Oh, and the ridiculously low ground clearance which means
that I can't park it in my driveway without entering it at a 45 degree
angle, even though my Porsche 944 and the girlie's LOWERED VW Corrado
make it up there just fine.
And quality, performance, handling, and reliability, and the service
you get from the dealer.
Even if price were the only factor, I'd still buy foreign, as Hyundai
kicks GM's ass in value for the money.
At least you are stating your opinion, not presenting it as fact. Americans
still buy more domestics than imports. As for my current 2007 sporty
domestic convertible, I would have to had spend at least $8,000 more for ANY
foreign car that can perform nearly as well. As for my current 2006 luxury
sedan, it is just as good as the foreign sedan I formally owned, that would
have cost me $15,000 more to drive home in 2006 had I bought another. As
they say, its your money send it where you wish.
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