As posted before, you have options on the manifold:
You can get a good after market manifold for 200.00. If you have to pay
for labor at least supply the part yourself.
Several posters here have tried these without problems. Dorman doesn't
sound Chinese to me. You were told by whom?
I have to replace mine soon and I've got a choice (it seems to me) of
trying something designed to replace a shitty product or go back to the
original suppliers of the shitty product who have already given me *one*
shitty replacement for yet another chance at a good product, all the
while being told to bend over when its time to pay. I'll pass.
Heh, maybe the original piece of shit was made in China.
Been around since 1918
Dorman Products, Inc.
3400 E. Walnut Street
Colmar, PA 18915
Phone: (215) 997-1800
Fax: (215) 997-7968
Web Site: www.rbinc.com
Does you Crown Vic hav a lot of miles on it? My Grand Marquis that
has been costing me money has 132K miles.
If it was one incident then I wouldn't mind as much. But in the past
year this car hascost me a fortune. The front end had to be
completely rebuilt (tie rods and ball joints) and they were truly bad
There are other potential weeknesses in this car. The transmission is
known to fail if the fluid isn't changed every 35 K. I never owned a
car that need that. This indicates very poor design.
Before this car, I owned a 1985 Olds Cutlass. Never had any problems
oustside of the fact that it eventually roted out afer driving it for
Mine has 185kms on it. about 120k miles i guess.
i had to put one tierod on i guess when i first got it (about 130kms --
80k miles). brake pads all around, rotors on front. I have an axle
seal leaking that I have to tackle someday.
ANY transmission should have the fluid changed every 60,000kms... why
would you think transmission fluid lasts forever? You change your oil
every 5000, don't you??? Brake fluid doesn't last forever, you are
"supposed" to change your rad fluid every 2yrs...
These transmissions aren't known to fail, anything is known to fail if
the operator doesn't take care of it. Just like all our forestry
machinery in the woods, we have all contractors on strict maintenance
schedules... sure maintenance takes time and costs money, but it saves
big problems, and prolongs life of equipment.
You would only have to cook one motor to realize that you should change
the oil when the hours are due... Maintenance takes time every
day/week/month, but cooking a motor costs a lot more in the long run
with lost time and replacements.
From: email@example.com (mstrspy)
(1) $735 for Cheesey plastic intake manifold.
(2) $550 for 5 coils and 8 spark plugs installed (the spark plugs
were replaced last year) and I still get a check engine light. I have
owned cars for 34 years and this is by far the BIGGEST SHITBOX that I
have ever owned
Ford basically sucks. I hope they go out of business; they deserve it.
hi mstrspy - i remember you had the other troubles with this car too.
but i'm curious on the part where it needed 5 COP units. the 8 spark
plugs are consumable, so i won't address that, but i find it strange
that 5 coils unit to go.
my reason for asking is because while my two 98 + cars have over 100k on
them, i've not experienced this, but i am watching for it.
but my son has a 5.4 in a 1998 van with 190k on it and did have one COP
unit go back and that was it so far. he did question the parts man and
was told that considering that they sit over the engine in the heat,
they hold up amazingly well.
wish you best,
knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
5 Cops went bad this time, one went bad a month ago, so six have been
replaced so far.
After spending $735 for the intake manifold and
$550 for Cops and Plugs, I still get a check engine light and the
I assume that he other two remaining original COPs are bad.
Tommorow I'm going to Autozone to get two more COP coils and replacing
them myself. Looks easy enough
This is why I am so upset. After spending all of this and ther is
still something wrong.
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 13:55:23 -0500, PALMER firstname.lastname@example.org (c palmer)
Is it the coils themselves that are failing, or just the plug boots? The boots
available separately and are a maintenence item just like plug wires. I've seen
few of the coils actually fail, never more than one or two over the life of a
particular car. To have 6 of the 8 fail in a short time is unheard of.
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