OK, even though I got no respose to my question about taking the
manual valve out without losing anything, I decided that I would go
ahead and remove it. So, if anyone wants to know, yes, you can take
the manual valve out of a A4LD transmission while still in the truck.
I loosened the valve body up a bit so it would slide out, but it did,
and it should go back in just as easy.
However, now I have a question on where I can find a manual valve
without having to replace the entire valve body.
Any ideas of a good source? I do feel I can finish it myself without
any advice, (since nobody does seem to know about the A4LD
transmission here), but I need to find a source for the part.
Any ideas? Ford wanted $300 for a new valve body.
Aside from the fact that nobody knows why you are zoning in on the manual
valve.... one of the things I have never seen a concern with in the
A4LD..... And now that you have the valve in your hot, little paw with no
description of what you see for concerns... What is ther to be said?
You seem to know everything there is to know and woe betide me if I make any
All I can suggest is a wreckers for the valve spool (good luck).
FWIW, don't let little niggling facts like me doing this stuff for nearly 40
years sway your better judgement.
Hi Jim. Whats happened to this n/g? Used to be crowded with friendly
help. Would you please share a little of that experience with me. Just
swapped manifolds on the 4.6 (finally) and I wonder if there are any
"do's and dont's" for the injectors.
I have replaced the O-rings on the bottom end and wonder, should I
install the injectors first, then the rail or vice versa or does it even
Part of what is happening to this NG is assumption....
Someone assumes that we will remember his posts about a 92 Ranger.... and
flatly states that he knows what he's doing but can't realize that the valve
body and spools are sold as an assembly because of the tight tolerances
required. Incidentally, we aren't aware of his concern with the manual valve
and, if there was a concern with this valve, it would be obvious to the
naked eye or to the gentle touch.
Speaking of assumptions... I assume that this 4.6 is older and has several
miles on it. As far as installing the injectors, it is whatever works for
you... either way is easy as long as due care and attention is given.
For the O-rings.... The lower O-rings only seal up to about 20 inches of
vacuum while the uppers must seal up to something like 60 PSI of gasoline.
Now, your upper O-rings *may* be good enough to return to service... or they
may not. I can't tell from here. If there was even a shred of doubt, O-rings
are cheap... much cheaper than a fire from leaking fuel.. Doing a job such
as this in a professional venue, I wouldn't hesitate to replace those
O-rings.... without inspecting them... because it is the logical thing to do
to avoid a concern with leaking fuel.
There is no magic to this stuff... no smoke and no mirrors.... Careful
thought and a basic understanding of the system is all that is required. It
isn't just a matter of undoing bolts and then doing them back up.
I was not assuming anything. I posted a question, got no response. I
was not mad or anything like that. The only reason I removed the
manual valve is that sometime it got bent. When it got bent, it didn't
move in and out. Hence, it got stuck in drive. Would not go back to
park. At first I wanted to know if it could be replaced. Got no
response, so I decided to take it out.
I just thought this was a group to ask questions about Ford Vehicles.
I have noticed that this has changed to having my dog create
greenhouse gasses and that Toyota lies, but everyone here loves them
because most posts are about some bashing of Fords.
I LOVE my Fords, and would rather have a rusty old Ranger than a
Toyota. I am from the old school that says we support our own. I work
for an American company, so I would hope that others would support my
company as I try to buy from American companies.
As far as my valve, I am going to look for one around town, and if I
cannot find one, then I will be purchasing a rebuilt valve body. Until
today, I had never touched the inside of a transmission except to
change the fluid in my Taurus.
Never said anywher that I was an expert, just asked some advice and I
felt that I could put it together since I figured how to get it apart.
Sorry to bother you for asking a Ford question in a Ford newsgroup.
Seems as if I may have been off topic.
Won't happen again.
Again, I am truly sorry to take up anyone's time.
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:04:48 GMT, "Jim Warman"
Stu... don't misunderstand me..... If I appear brusque or seem annoyed, this
is just my nature.... I open my mouth and whatever it is I am thinking falls
I mean no ill will to anyone and offer only what advice I can.... the way I
state if often takes some by surprise but being "genteel" or politically
correct are two things that I will never be accused of.
Yes, its a 97 with 170 K. I should have added that.
Well it went back together smoothly doing the rail last. Replaced all
the bottom O-rings and left the top as they were. Cost wasn't the
concern, just my first go at R&R fuel injectors and the replacement
package only contained 12 O-rings which left me kind of confused. Got
it finished before your reply or I would have replaced all. I will
check closely before lighting it up.
Now that I've done it I have an understanding of the system but I was
definitely in the unbolt, bolt mode going in. Thanks for sharing your
insights. Very much appreciated. I'm retired on fixed income and this
n/g has helped me save some serious $$ which in turn allows my wife to
buy more useless stuff at yard sales. ;)
I can sympathise on the "yard sales"... My wife is a true Canadian - she
spends 10% more than I earn making retirement something that other people
get to do (I can't picture myself retired, anyway).
Word of advice... move north... This winter we had snow on the ground for 7
months... Not a yard sale to be found in that whole time.
Move north? Fat chance, I live in Los Angeles, yard sale heaven. And my
wife....., she's from Canada also. What is it with these Canucks?
Small world, eh?
On the plus side, I haven't bought a new T-shirt or pair of Levi's in 10
Where are you that you had all that snow?
Slave Lake, Alberta... we are roughly at the same lattitude as Ketchikan,
Alaska but without the temoprizing affect of the ocean.
We have four seasons... almost winter, winter, still winter and
construction.... Strangely enough, I wouldn't trade it for the world.
Google Earth..... 55 degree 16' 40" North 114 degrees 46' West....
Not much daylight in December eh?
OTOH, you'll be able to work outside close to midnight in a month or so.
Does it get completely dark in June or is there still a twilight glow on
the northern horizon at midnight? You also live in a great place for
seeing the northern lights.
Yes on the northern lights..... Around the summer solstice, the sky is blue
to the north even at 2 in the AM.
In December/January..... when I drive to work in the morning (7:45ish)... it
is dark..... If I leave work on time (5:00ish)... it is dark....
On an eery note.... I was looking for an unrelated file I recalled seeing on
putfile and saw this vid http://media.putfile.com/driven-around-town
It was an odd feeling when I realized I recognized the scenery.....
Do they salt the roads much up there? It's a real problem here in the
northeast US. Every car I've owned had to be replaced because of rust in
a structural area that couldn't be repaired economically. I never had to
get rid of a car due to mechanical failure of the engine or
transmission. It's not uncommon here to have a 'salt car' which is
sacrificed in the winter to save the body on your warm weather car. The
highway departments got the drivers used to having bare roads within
hours of a snow storm. Now they couldn't use less salt if they wanted
to. They're afraid of being sued if someone has an accident caused by a
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