All you have to do to "inform" us is to supply a link to the mythical
Department of Commerce web site that includes domestic content
information for automobiles. You have made this claim many times and I
am sure there is not such a site. However, you could prove me wrong
with a simple link. Why not do so?
Mike you might want to review
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/809208.PDF . From page ix:
"At this time (2000), summaries of label information - e.g., tables
that list the make-models in each vehicle class by U.S./Canadian parts
content - are not available to consumers via the news media or the
Now maybe htis has changed since 2000, but if it has, I still can't
find the information. I have contacted NHTSA and asked how the
information can be obtained. Maybe they'll tell me to ask Mike Hunt...
The problem is you are searching for the wrong thing. Even Camrys made
ENTIRELY in Japan of Japanese MATERIALS and PARTS, display a NA content
If one make the component of a part offshore from materials off shore and
assembles the final part in Canada it will meet the criteria of the NA parts
label. Not the same as one where the components are made in THE US of
materials made in THE US and assembled in THE US that is counted as factor
used in THE US GNP.
Toyota buys from other Japanese corporations, operating plants in the US
that use Japanese MATERIALS and COMPONENTS to make parts.
Domestics do not use Nippon Steel for instance, they American materials like
steel, plastics, glass etc.. BIG difference when one is talking about what
is MADE in the US and what is only assembled in the US
You are still full of it. Here in Waterloo Region we have many
independent parts manufacturers making parts for Ontario built
Toyotas, from materials sourced here in Canada. Now a LOT of materials
are just plain NOT available in North America from North American
sources as production has been shifted offshore for ecological
reasons. (can't do it hear at the right price and still meet emissions
and workplace safety requirements) so even North American
manufacturers are using Chinese, Indian, or Korean sourced plastics
etc, and virtually all electronic components are offshore
manufactured, including the circuit boards and (possibly) assembled
And don't be too sure the Toyota bodies are made of Nippon steel
I do not "save" links to places I have searched. If I can find the site,
so can others who want to do the deep search needed to find information
about GDP from the US Department of Commerce. Like I tell our friend Jeff,
do your own homework ;)
Then back it up for once in your life. If it is so easy to find then
take a few minutes from you busy day and help us out.
You constantly say things that are easily proved false. You never
admit it when you are clearly wrong. You just make flip remarks or
claim double secret inside knowledge. I can't prove that there isn't a
publically accessible government web site that provides domestic
content information for cars sold in the US, but I doubt that there
is. I have looked for it repeatedly and never found it. All the
information I have found indicates that the government is deliberately
not making this information readily available. You claim there is a
web site with this information. Given your past history of blatantly
making stuff up, I suspect this is another false Mike Hunt claim.
However, you can easily prove me wrong by just pointing out the web
As I said before if I can find that information so can others. You can
believe whatever you choose and buy what ever you want to buy, I could not
In any event you have it backwards. You are the one posting misinformation,
by always pointing to the NA parts label, that Toyota is American made.
The NA parts label is misleading in that it makes it appear parts assembled
in NA of imported parts a American made. Toyotas TOTALLY made in Japan
have the same parts label as those ASSEMBLED in the US. The parts, like
the cars are only assembled in the US, of mostly imported parts and
Toyota no longer says the Camry in made in America, they say ASSEMBLED in
American of world sourced parts. Use you head, why would Toyota do that if
the Camry was actually make in America?
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