Tire quality question

Hi,I just bought a set of B.F.Goodrich "Commercial T/A All Season" tires at Costco.I just couldn't coax the extra $300 out of my wallet to get the Michelins. I've noticed that the tires lock-up pretty easily when braking and they burn easier on hard accelleration(Easier that the previous 13 year old goodyears)Also,in hard braking the truck feels like a hovercraft or something,kinda like it's on big marshmallows. I'm stuck with them for now because I could not for the life of me find a comparison that included this particular tire,Perhaps it is relabled for Costco only or something Does anybody know of a site that has all the test information on tires,including this one.Tire- Rack doesn't list this one Size is 235/85/16 Thanks.

Reply to
Brian Orion
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You might want to make sure they are inflated properly, that could be causing some of the problems you are describing.

The last set of tires I had put on at Canadian Tire had messed up pressures when they put them on., 24, 26, 28, and 30lbs, nothing the same, and nothing high enough! It sure made for a strange ride.

L8R, Jeff

Reply to
Hawk

You've got a new, softer rubber tire is all it is. Learn how to threshhold brake (that'll take a little practice) and make sure your air pressure is correct. I like BFG tires and have never had problems like you're describing - again, check pressures.

John

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J Harris

I don't think a softer rubber will cause the tire to lose traction easier, although a harder rubber or over-inflated tire will. Tom F.

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Tom F.

I just installed a set of Commercial T/A's, 245/75-16 E range on my E-250 last week. I found that my tires were a bit overinflated (65 lbs all around) and was causing much the same problems you described. Since I have the V-6 in my truck and I've found that I seem to wear out my tires from the center, I've dropped my pressures down to 40 lbs front and 45 rear ( calls for 45 front and 50 rear). Made a big difference on how it rides and handles now! They seem to have a very stiff sidewall compared to other tires of the same weight rating? This is the second set of them I've used. Not real happy with them but since I burn out a set every 9 months, I have to pay attention to price. The last tires were a set of Dunlop's (same size

245/75-16 E) and I only got 29,000 miles on those. Rode better and quieter but didn't last. I got 49,000 on my first set of Commercial T/A's. I paid 448 for the tires mounted, balanced, disposal fee and road hazard. About 300 less than the Michelin's.
Reply to
Sans Nom

I bought a set of those also at Sam's (like Costco but owned by Walmart). I can't say I've noticed any odd handling with them, so maybe your problem is just inflation as some other guys have suggested. They're cheap enough, aren't they? Because of the price I didn't expect much from them. The truck had Generals on it from the factory, I think, and the two tires seemed to ride about the same.

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Joe

On Tue, 04 May 2004 00:20:45 +0000, Sans Nom rearranged some electrons to form:

You might want to rethink that strategy. Even though the Michelins are $300 more, you should get more than 49k miles out of them. Plus a much better tire, IMHO.

Reply to
David M

Agreed, the Michelins ARE a better tire. But the Commercial T/A's cost me .009 cents a mile to the .011 cents for the Michelins. Not much difference but still something to consider. I got 65,000 miles on Michelins installed on a one ton GMC van.

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Sans Nom

Hey very good thread as I'm shopping right now for tires for my truck and those two were on my list. I hate tires that feel like "big marshmallows", as Brian described them, LOL, and like the firmer feel on changing lanes and going around corners. Anyone had any experience with Dunlop # Rover AT or the Trail Mark Rd AP ones? They are on my considering list as well. Both (I think) are owned by Goodyear. I've used the Goodyear's workhorse, ATS and AT before and most of them are "marshmallows" because of the high tread, until they were down. Also, mileage is not a priority since I usually hit the sidewalk on rocks, while riding in the mountains, to work on the radio equipment, just need s quite, but firm tire. Just another note I test rode a truck with "wildcats" on them and they are nice and firm.

thanks, Karl in Spokane

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Reply to
Karl Shoemaker

I believe that the tire you are looking for is the BF Goodrich AT. It has a triple sidewall. The USFS uses only that tire down here in the S. CA mountains. They're not cheap. I use them on my Bronco, but have Revo's on my F350. The Revo's are new so no history. The Goodrich's stick like glue on ice and snow.

: > > > burn out a set every 9 months, : > > > I have to pay attention to price. The last tires were a set of Dunlop's : > > > (same size 245/75-16 E) and I only got 29,000 miles on those. Rode : > better : > > > and quieter but didn't last. I got 49,000 on my first set of Commercial : > > > T/A's. I paid 448 for the tires mounted, balanced, disposal fee and road : > > > hazard. About 300 less than the Michelin's. : > >

: > > You might want to rethink that strategy. Even though the Michelins are : > > $300 more, you should get more than 49k miles out of them. Plus a much : > > better tire, IMHO. : > >

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: > Agreed, the Michelins ARE a better tire. But the Commercial T/A's cost me : > .009 cents a mile to the .011 cents for the Michelins. Not much difference : > but still something to consider. I got 65,000 miles on Michelins installed : > on a one ton GMC van.

Reply to
Mellowed

Right; I wonder if they are quite and firm cornering as well? Those are going for $570 +tx at Costco.

Karl

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Reply to
Karl Shoemaker

The Goodrich's are firm cornering. As far as quite, I don't have a reference point. I don't notice them, but the old Bronco is not exactly quite. I would characterize them as competitive for this type of tire.

: > I believe that the tire you are looking for is the BF Goodrich AT. It : > has a triple sidewall. The USFS uses only that tire down here in the S. : > CA mountains. They're not cheap. I use them on my Bronco, but have : > Revo's on my F350. The Revo's are new so no history. The Goodrich's : > stick like glue on ice and snow. : snip

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Mellowed

| > I believe that the tire you are looking for is the BF Goodrich AT. It | > has a triple sidewall. The USFS uses only that tire down here in the S. | > CA mountains. They're not cheap. I use them on my Bronco, but have | > Revo's on my F350. The Revo's are new so no history. The Goodrich's | > stick like glue on ice and snow. | snip

I've got the BF Goodrich All-Terrain's on my Bronco and they seem to be good tires. I just took the snow tires off (April 30th) and had to purchase 3 new summer tires. The guy I bought the truck from had 3 old and 1 new one. So reluctantly, I purchased them figuring that while they weren't the cheapest out there, I already had one...

They seem to be quiet and firm. In fact I've been looking for an excuse to leave the pavement and see how well they handle off road. On the streets they handle quite well, but then again I know I'm driving a truck not a car so high speed cornering is out.

Reply to
Bobby

thanks Bobby & Mellowed Karl

Reply to
Karl Shoemaker

Try the BFG All Terrain TA's. They are much better than any of the other BFG tires. I run 285/75/16's on my SD F250 and love em. Keep in mind that they do not come in a E rated load range. D is as high as they go. You are looking at $700 for a set mounted and balanced at Tire Kingdom.

Michelins are

Reply to
Tyrone

Very true about the rated load range, except you have to realize that while the 245/75/16's may be rated as an E range tire, they are rated for a maximum of 3042 lbs. @ 80 lbs. of air, each. While your 285/75/16's with their D rated load range are rated at a maximum of 3305 lbs. @ 65 lbs. of air, each. Quite a bit greater load capacity, while technically being a lighter rated tire. Info courtesy of BFG's website.

Bob

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Bob

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