3800 variants?

Actually, the biggest factor is friction: between the tires and the road, in the tires walls, in the transmission.

Yeah with light foots at 65mph =20

This should cover all vibe models

Yea, I'll agree with that one. I have a program that'll give you the 0-60, top speed, gas mileage...etc etc if you put in all the specs and powertrain losses are the highest, followed by the tires and stuff then drag.

It's gotta be higher then that. In physics class we got the Cd of a model rocket, did all the measuring and math and came up with I believe 24 lbs at some speed...maybe 50 or 60 mph and the teacher checked off on it. I do seem to remember squaring V now that you mention it but we did all the measurements in the imperial system.

? You asked. I answered. No, I see no need to mash down the accelerator and waste gas just to get to 65mph 1-2 seconds faster.

Drag force= (1/2)Crav^2

For speed 1 mph is 1.609344 kph and 60*1.609344=96.56064 and

Since we don't have the density of air it's (1/2)(.28)(2.299776046)(9323.957197)=3002.021878 N = 674.881366 pounds force and for the Cd of .30 it's 3 216.452012 Newtons = 723.087177 pounds force.

This is Km/h, but we need m/s.

It's pretty pathetic that such a measly car sucks up so much fuel, and premium!

My Intrigue has 215HP and 230ftlbs and gets 22-24MPG / 30-32MPG of regular gas.

Obviously, the only way to get it is with the normal engine and manual transmission.

As a base model mini econo-wagon/van, it's a good deal compared to the typical budget offerings like Hyundai and GM typically have to offer to first time buyers.

I do believe that you're right. We're gonna get to the bottom of this damned thing soon :P

The Intrigue's only engine is a 3.5 V6 and the only transmission, automatic.

Have fun "upgrading" to 134a. Once we've retrofitted barrier hoses, replaced all the O-rings and the orifice, replaced the cycling switch, replaced the accumulator, flushed out the mineral oil and replaced it with esther, we've sunk a ton a cash into a project that yields somewhat less effective cooling. Then figure the higher head pressures on the compressor, the evaporator that's been quietly corroding away for a decade, and the condensor that's been battered with stones, bugs and the occasional small mammal for the same period of time, and it turns into a massive money pit that lasts for 18 months before crapping out again. Sorry, I'm still bitter about the outcome of *that* brilliant idea. Marky

I meant the Vibe. Then it gets very good gas mileage and has cargo capacity like a small minivan.

"Neo" wrote

No, there were some years that the 3800 was also available....it was just a w-body after all. When it first came out, only the 3800 was available, then the next year both were available, then after that it was 3.5 only.

Ian

And if it wasn't enough, some scientists published papers on evidence that the ozone hole over the poles have been there for at least 1 century, well before CFC was invented.

The fact is that any volcano eruption releases more chlorine in the atmosphere than mankind has ever or will ever.

But environmentalists never allow facts get in their way to absolute power. Just think that the Hummer dealer they arsoned in CA released more pollution than all the almost 100 vehicles destroyed would in all their expected life.

I'll give you the links.

snipped-for-privacy@mailandnews.com (Neo) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com:

I think there is some question as to the accuracy of all data we see in reports and surveys today, and the earth probably does go through long warming and cooling periods, but we definitely need to look at the effects of our actions on the environment and err on the side of safety. Likewise, environmental extremists only interfere in reaching agreements to do this.

Phillip Schmid wrote in alt.autos.gm

As I said, and most of your links confirm it. It is the neo-conversatives that are attempting to deny it. Note the last article does not deny global warming. Scientists are just now starting to understand the effects. Some areas may experience colder weather, as the oceans change levels, and as more moisture is in the air. The increased moisture can and will change the dynamics of the weather. And higher sea levels also mean that areas that are just above sea level will in a few decades become lower than sea level. I also read where global warming will cause the crop growing areas to move further away from the equator by a few hundred miles.

We haven't recovered from the mini ice age in the middle ages. Temperatures are still cooler than 1000 years ago and even cooler than