Welcome to the wonderful world of Monte Carlo ownership. I have/had both
these problems. The inoperative break lights is most likely the turn signal
switch. Check to see if the CHMSL (thrid brake light) work, if it does and
the lower two brake lights don't work, it's the turn signal switch,
The cruise control problem started like that for me. It would work, then I'd
do some thing like turn lights on, turn wipers on etc. and it would
disengage. Then after awhile it would just disengage for no reason. Now, it
doesn't work at all. I did all the diagnosis steps. The final step I got to
in the flow chart was "replace cruise control module." :(
Tks for info. regarding brake lights. thrid brake light does work, were do
I find turn signal switch and what does it look like.
Did you replace cruise control module or is that something a repair shop
needs to do?
For now have used one of the hot wires for thrid light to light up brakes
so I can drive car but now have other problems when I step on brakes, dash
board lights,clock,etc dim. Also when pressing brake petal front signal
lights go on.The right turn signal only works if back for high beams. Have
bought multimeter. Was told could be signal switch but be cautious
removing because of air bag is involed in replacement.
Just replace your signal switch and get it over with. This problem is no
common, so I found out recently, I called the Stealership for a price and he
rhymed it off like it was his phone number. I asked how he knew the price
without even looking it up, he said they keep 6 in stock because it's such a
common replacement item and people are always looking for them..
Put your DVM away and go buy:
1. Haynes or Chilton's (even factory service manual if you are serious
2. Steering wheel puller.
3. Lock plate removal tool.
4. Turn signal switch (AC Delco p/n D6214A with steering wheel controls or
D6226A without, GM p/n 19005031 without steering wheel controls,
approximately $68.38US, or 19005032 with steering wheel controls,
PS - It sounds like you may have messed around with the wires and put +12VDC
some where it wasn't designed to go. If you didn't own a DVM before this,
stick to just replacing parts rather than trying to rewire the car. Not
trying to be a d***, just trying to make sure you don't mess something up
and make your car inoperable.
If you put +12VDC to the brake lights from somewhere else, say directly off
the brake switch, the rear signals will not work because you have
essentially bypassed the flasher. So now you have +12VDC going into the rear
lights and if you didn't disconnect the other end, just spliced in, now
you're sending +12VDC back through the flasher/signal swtch etc. and
basically bypassing all engineering that went into designing the system to
I'm tired, not sure what I'm babbling, just put the wires back and replace
the turn signal switch.
Did the deed myself not long ago on a 91 Regal. Very easy job. Manual
said I had a locking plate to deal with but they were wrong. If you do
the job here is a hint, cut old wires where you can for easier removal
from column and put new harness outside of column instead of trying to
put back inside the column like the factory ( which is impossible ).
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:18:43 -0400, "Steve Mackie"
Oh my. Not sure why you wouldn't have to touch the lock plate. Cutting the
wires for the old switch is a good idea, but don't cheat and run the new one
outside the column, that's just stupid. It's not impossible to run the wires
in the factory location, it's actually quite simple, not sure why you had
Well on the end of the harness from the switch there is an electrical
female connector about an inch or so wide which made it very difficult
to fish back through the column. Doing it the way I did saved a lot of
work and when it was done it looked and worked purrrfect.As far as the
lock plate is concerned , ( what was showed in the manual ) it just
wasn't there. If you don't have the specific shop manual from Dealer
they can be very non specific because they tend to cover many years
and models. I had just the main nut , washer and switch if memory
serves me correctly . Cheers
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:27:47 -0400, "Steve Mackie"
No, idiot would imply that I am not smart. I am a dick, and I will not deny
it if someone tells me.
There are two types of people in the world I don't have patience for, stupid
people and lazy people.
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