Hi Folks, just looking for experiences and opinions.
I live in Canada and have a 2002 Montana with a 3.4 engine. I drive about
30,000KM per year and am almost at 60,000Km on the odometer. The dealer is
telling be that I should invest in the extended warranty that will take me
to $100,000Km. The problem is its about $2500.00 for what I see as about an
extra years protection.
My thoughts are that any vehicle should be able to go 100,000 Kms without a
major breakdown. My previous experience with GM has always been good,
I had a 1979 firebird with a 3.8l engine that went 400,000 Km without any
drivetrain problems. I also had a Cutlas that I traded with over 500,000Km,
again no problems.
So I was wondering if there were a lot of folks seeing major problems with
this type of Van under the 100,000Km mark before I fork over a large sum of
Any input would be appreciated......thanks
First you should be aware of and the symptoms of the lower intake manifold
gasket problem on that engine. Research it on the net and discuss the costs
of replacing it with your dealer as left undetected you will be replacing
the engine in short order. $2500 is a lot for only one year but only you can
decide that. I would probably take the money and put in a maintenance fund
for the van.....
First of all, these extended warranties are not true warranties, they
are insurance policies. And purchased through the dealer they are
almost always way over priced. Dealers love them, and will push
very hard to sell them, harder even than they work to sell the car.
That is because they take very little overhead, and typical profit,
from what I have seen, is about half of what you pay for it.
Another thing about them is that they are very difficult to get claims
paid, and often times are worded so that it is almost impossible to
fulfill the requirements needed for the parts to be covered.
However, I am sure that there are some good policies out there. Do a
web search for them. You will be shocked at the price difference.
Here is one site that discusses them, with a referral to a policy,
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
Just say no. Take the money you would spend on the warranty, either at
once, or over time if you desire, on a monthly basis as if it were
actually in your car payment, and put it in a fund for car repairs.
You should know:
Some extended warranties cover powertrain only.
Some do not cover electronic/electrical components.
Even the best typically do not cover exhaust, clutch, brake rotors,
or anything else they expect will need repair from time to time as a
normal course of operating the vehicle.
Thats hyundai's factory warranty that is crappy like that, I've seen GMPP
warranties that cover more then the Hyundai factory warranty. Someone should
sue them for false advertisement of their "10 year 100,000 mile warranty"
You'd figure something like shocks on my GF's 99 elanta with 51K on it would
be covered, but I guess its normal for them to wear out in 50K...
If you get an Extended warranty, get a GMPP policy, its almost as good as
the factory warranty. Stay away from Wynn's, CNA is ok, I have to deal with
extended warranty companies on a daily basis, and the problems with getting
them paid is the problem of the dealership, ussually not the customer,
unless you go to some hole in the wall mechanics shop.
Most places will require you to pay the bill and submit to the warranty
company unless it is a company with which they do business. As long as
you take your car to the facility where you purchased it or the dealer for
a manufacturer's extended warranty, there should be no problem.
As far as Hyundai's warranty, the 5/60 bumper to bumper warranty covers
more than any GMPP policy. The 10/100 warranty is for powertrain only for
the first owner only. I fail to see how anyone can claim that this is
poor warranty coverage.
It seems like the major big ticket trouble spot with these is intake
manifold gasket failures, which cost around US$1500 to have repaired if not
under warranty. The important thing is to catch the leaking intake quickly
if it happens before coolant contamination in the oil does a job on the
$20 oil analysis of your used motor oil is a good way to check for coolant
contamination at low levels. www.blackstone-labs.com is the place I get my
oil analysis work done.
Most folks I know that have grenaded their engines due to coolant in
the oil, just kept adding more when the 'low coolant' light came on
Seems some people don't think to ask themselves the question: "So,
where's all that shit going ?" To be fair, sometimes they start
leaking externally at the same time, but still......
Me, I also keep an eye on the dipstick at every fuel fill, just to be
on the safe side. ('99 Malibu, 3.1, 140,000 km, no gasket failures
BTW, these engines were made in two places, Tonawanda NY & San
Arizpe, Mexico. Would be interesting to see if one place turned-out
most of the gasket-spitters. (Mine's a Mexican)
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