Toyota sells just over 10% of the vehicles sold in the US, Honda even less
In total vehicle sales GM sells three times as many in the US as Toyota.
Ford sells more than twice as many and Chrysler sell nearly half again as
many as Toyota. Both GM and Ford sell more light trucks, including SUVs,
than Toyota sells cars and trucks combined. In 2005 GM, Ford and Chrysler
sold around 55% of all the vehicles sold in the US. ALL of the numerous
others from Japan, Europe and Korea sold around 45% combined. Do a search
and educate yourself before you post again on a subject of which you have
little or no knowledge, WBMA.
I see why your are confused by advertising and semantics. Yes, Toyota sells
more individual brand cars, but over half the vehicles sold in the US are
light trucks and SUVs. GM and Ford sell more trucks than Toyota and Honda
sell cars AND trucks combined. In fact GM and Ford sell more light TRUCKS
ALONE than Toyota and Honda sell cars AND trucks combined . GM sells more
trucks and CARS than any other brand except Ford. While both GM and Ford
sell more trucks and CARS than Toyota or Honda, Toyota and Honda sell more
cars under ONE label than GM or Ford. The best selling vehicle of one brand
in the US is the Ford F Series, but GM actually sells more trucks with its
several brands. If one went by advertising one might think Toyota offers
the most vehicles with the best fuel economy. The fact is GM sells over 19
vehicles that get thirty MPG or better, Toyota only offers nine and Honda
even less GM even has V6 equipped vehicles
that can match some of the 4cy vehicles of some import brands. ;)
You have blinded eyes and are looking just inside your little world.
Many GM cars are very behind Toyota, Honda and others on design.
Toyota will soon be the largest car manufacturer in the world, the
customers obviously like Toyota's, Honda's, etc. designs and quality,
because as you state they generally cost more, but the difference is
much less than you suggest and is decreasing.
Recently the big 3 have seen dropping sales, while Toyota, Honda, etc.
have had steady sales increases. The customers are talking with their
For example one thing I definitely need in my cars is a full size
matching spare. GM's recent designs (even of their smaller SUVs) don't
have a wheel well capable of holding a full size spare, while most
Toyotas actually include a matching full size spare.
GM has been trying to catch up in design in the last few years, but
their cost structure is killing them. The income from GMAC and retained
cash has been keeping GM above water. Those days are quickly ending.
Where do I stand on my car purchases?
In the 50s I switched to imports being very unhappy with the 50s cars;
back to big 3 cars in the 60s; back to imports in the 70s; have bought
big 3 cars since 1979. Unfortunately I don't see a current big 3 car
product that meets my requirements.
However most Toyotas, Hondas, etc. are no longer imports to NAFTA, so
my choice of a non import is much larger than previously!
Ford and GM either cannot, or do not want to produce a quality
passenger car. This is a fact!
I tend to believe they have lost the capacity to produce competitive
quality passenger cars a long time ago. They have been losing market-
-share in all metropolitan areas, for years now, and in some places like
California it is almost unthinkable to buy a GM or Ford passenger car
What keeps these two zombies alive is three things.
First, they own some foreign brands, and also sell some of their
cars to unsophisticated consumers in places like China, Eastern
Europe, Middle East, etc.
Second, they control rental companies to whom they sell a lot
of their passenger junk.
Third, their extensive network of dealerships in rural and semi-rural
areas gives them a certain degree of monopoly in those markets.
Consumers in rural America just have no alternative but to buy
their products. If Nissan, Honda, Toyota, and others had even
a half-decent network of dealerships in small town America
GM and Ford would be wiped out of the passanger car
The foreign, and rental business, plus a few niche products like the
Corvette, Mustang, would not be enough to keep Ford and GM in
car manufacturing. Both companies would become pick-up truck
and van/suv manufacturers exclusively.
Like said your are entitled to you own opinion but I stopped buying foreign
cars some time ago because they cost much more than their domestic
competitors cars. I have yet to find any of my current, or previous
domestic cars, to be of poor quality. To the contrary, the have all been
well built quality cars that perform as good or better they any foreign cars
I have owned. I no longer need to put up with the arrogance of foreign car
dealers who seem to think they are doing me a favor buy letting me buy one
of their overpriced cars. More buyers feel as I do since they buy more GM,
Ford and Chrysler vehicles than Toyota or Honda and THAT my friend is a fact
I have no affinity for domestics. From what I saw in my business every
manufacture is building high quality dependable vehicles today. I
personally believe, with all of the good vehicles on the market today, there
is not valid reason to pay more to buy a foreign vehicle and add to the
trade imbalance. As to the Korean cars if I were to chose to have my money
leave the country I would buy a Korean car before a Japanese car because of
Honda does indeed build many of the cars it sells in the US of American
parts but not Toyota. Most of what Toyota sells in the US are imported or
merely assemble in the US of mostly imported parts except for those built in
the GM/Toyota plant in California. The UAW contract for that plaint
requires 75% American parts.
There is a good point, when an imported vehicle needs something like a fuel
pump or alternator or starter replaced at less than 100k its considered a
"maintenance item". When I had to replace the fuel pump on my s10 after 12
years and 150,000 miles I was told how unreliable it was and I only had to
replace it because off roading dented the bottom of the tank and years
later it rusted through and the pump started sucking up rust.
The dealer experience is one of the main reasons I stick with foreign brands
(though my latest acquisition, a 2006 Subaru Legacy, was built by Hoosiers
in Lafayette, IN). US dealers treat customers like cattle with checkbooks.
I've consistently received more courteous, customer-oriented service from
foreign brand dealers who seem to realize customers are their "bread and
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