Lets see smart a&&:
1) You asked a very generic question
2) You did not list your budget
3) You did not list what "gains" you expected
4) You did not list the expected usage of this extra horspower
5) get the message - you got a vaid answer to your question
I wasnt being a smartass, mearly stating that I couldnt put that much into
this car. However that is an interesting page. I have considered changing
the air cleaner to increase air flow, that was about it, I just didnt know
if there were chips, or other beneficial things I could do to assist with
If you are thinking K&N will make your car a screamer, save your money.
Studies published in the last year or so show that they also pass a lot of
You could try a custom chip. They don't cost so much, and you may
get a little closer to what you want.
That is a lot of money for a turbo kit, but it is probably well designed,
has everything you need, and is near to failsafe.
Most cars now are just not easily modified to yield a bunch of power
cheaply like the old ones.
HLS, I hadn't heard about the K&N's passing dirt. I just did a quick
Google and couldn't find any relative links. I'd like to find out more
about this problem. Do you know of any links where I could find out
more info.? Thanks.
Part of a past post about them.
Info - Automatic Transmission Shift, Engine Driveability Concerns or
Service Engine Soon (SES) Light On as a Result of the Installation of an
Aftermarket Reusable, Excessively Oiled Air Filter #04-07-30-013 -
Automatic Transmission Shift, Engine Driveability Concerns or Service
Engine Soon (SES) Light On as a Result of the Installation of an
Reusable, Excessively Oiled Air Filter
2004 and Prior Cars and Light Duty Trucks 2003-2004 HUMMER H2
First, Inspect the vehicle for a reusable aftermarket oiled air
filter DO NOT repair under warranty if concerns result from the use of a
reusable aftermarket oiled air filter.
The installation of an aftermarket reusable, oiled air filter may
a.. Service Engine Soon (SES) Light On
b.. Transmission shift concerns, slipping and damaged clutch(es) or
c.. Engine drivability concerns, poor acceleration from a stop,
limited engine RPM range
The oil that is used on these air filter elements may be transferred
onto the Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor causing contamination of the
sensor. As a result, the Grams per Second (GPS) signal from the MAF may
be low and
any or all of the concerns listed above may occur.
When servicing a vehicle with any of these concerns, be sure to check
for the presence of an aftermarket reusable, excessively oiled air
filter. The MAF, GPS reading should be compared to a like vehicle with a
air box and filter under the same driving conditions to verify the
Transmission or engine drivability concerns that are the result of
the installation of an aftermarket reusable, excessively oiled air
filter are not considered to be warrantable repair items.
This part is from a gentleman who actually TESTED K&N in real world
Subj: K & N filters
John: If I wrote "subjective" I meant "objective".. I was responsible
for evaluating re-usable air filters for a major construction/mining
company that had hundreds of vehicles ranging from large earthmovers
to pick-up trucks and salesmen's cars. This study was embarked upon
due to the fact that we were spending upwards of $30,000 a MONTH on
paper air filters. Using them one time then throwing them away.. I
the study in that I was convinced that a K&N type filter or oiled foam
would save us many dollars per year in filter savings, man hour
savings, and of course engines as these would filter dirt better than
paper. (yes, I had read the K&N ads and was a believer)
Representative test units were chosen to give us a broad spectrum from
cars right through large front end loaders. With each unit we had a
long history of oil analysis records so that changes would be
traceable. Unfortunately, for me, every single unit having alternative
re-usable air cleaners showed an immediate large jump in silicon (dirt)
levels with corresponding major increases in wear metals. In one
case, a unit with a primary and secondary air cleaner, the secondary
(small paper element) clogged before even one day's test run could be
completed. This particular unit had a Cummins V-12 engine that had
paper / paper on one bank and K&N / paper on the other bank; two
completely independent induction systems. The conditions were EXACTLY
duplicated for each bank yet the K&N allowed so much dirt to pass
through that the small filter became clogged before lunch. The same
with oiled foams on this unit.
We discontinued the tests on the large pieces almost immediately but
continued with service trucks, foremen's vehicles, and my own company
car. Analysis results continued showing markedly increased wear rates
for all the vehicles, mine included. Test concluded, switched back to
paper/glass and all vehicles showed reduction back to near original
levels of both wear metals and dirt. I continued with the K&N on my
company car out of stubbornness and at 85,000 miles the Chevy 305 V-8
wheezed its last breath. The top end was sanded badly; bottom end was
just fine. End of test.
I must stress that EVERYONE involved in this test was hoping that
alternative filters would work as everyone was sick about pulling out
a perfectly good $85 air cleaner and throwing 4 of them away each week
So, I strongly suggest that depending upon an individual's long term
plan for their vehicles they simply run an oil analysis at least once
to see that the K&N or whatever alternative air filter is indeed
working IN THAT APPLICATION... It depends on a person's priorities. If
you want performance then indeed the K&N is the way to go but at what
Web site with an in depth lab study.
I havent even lifted the hood yet on my GT 3100, I dont even know where the
air filter is yet, someplace in the front probally, I am going to check in
on that, my car is kinda a kitty at take off (it wont spin tires with ETS
off), but then it will kick in at about 5 or 10mph
I'm very sorry, Cool Jet, that I lost this thread a time back. I see that
someone has posted some information for you, however.
K&N do continue to sell a lot.
But I guess the Tornado does as well. That apple corer is even advertised
on Two Guys Garage, and it is truly a POS. Popular Mechanics evaluated
the corer and several other fuel savers/power boosters in a recent issue.
All were bogus.
what about one of those clamp on magnetic fuel savers that go on the fuel
line? I've not heard much about those.
BTW I was the original one to start this thread
Quote from 1/31/2006
Subject: more hp from 3100
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:22:01 -0500
I was wondering how I could get more hp from my stock 3100 V6 in my 98 Grand
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