very, VERY strange...

It's been about 8 months now since anything has gone wrong with my 89 Cutlass Supreme. I was starting to like not having to repair or replace, and instead just maintain!:)

But lastnight I drove to Mississauga, Ontario to pick-up my brother. It's an hour and a half drive on the highway. Going there, everything was smooth as always. But, on the way back, about 20 minutes from home, I noticed quite a violent shaking and vibration through the gas pedal, floor board, and especially steering wheel/column. For some reason I thought right away that it was a transmission thing, but then I realized it was doing it in every gear, and ONLY when I was at a certain throttle point.

For example, if I was 0-20% on the throttle, it was fine, 20-50%, it was shaking violently and wouldn't accelerate, and 50%+, it was fine!??

It was also making loud, almost grinding noises. And the steering wheel shaking could be heard as well as fealt. Same with the gas pedal itself, I could feel it pulsating really violently in my foot.

Needless to say I was very worried. Once I got onto city streets, I noticed it would even do it in 1st gear while starting to accelerate initially, then once I got past the throttle point in which it woud shake and rattle, it would stop until I was in the next gear and back at that same throttle point.

It kind of felt to me like something was all-of-a-sudden very loose, like something in the steering rack, column, or drive-line. My brother is under the impression that it didn't start doing this until I had accidently drove over too far on the left hand side and ran over all those closely placed BUMPY things to make you slow down. But I am not sure this is the case...

Anyways, what makes this SO strange, is that once I got off the highway and to my parents house, I shut the car off, parked it, and went inside for about 20 minutes. Then, when I went to leave to go home, I noticed that the shaking and vibrating was completely GONE!!!! What the hell!!?? Simply shutting the car off and parking it for 20 minutes has somehow cured the problem!!?? I drove all lastnight and so-far today and it has not done the same thing once! Not even a little bit!

So this has me totally flabergasted. Because I could see if it were an engine problem, then maybe reseting the engine by turning it off could possibly fix it, but this in no way felt like an engine problem at all! It felt completely like something was phyically damaged or disturbed. Maybe I'm wrong? I mean, I know when an engine has a mis-fire like a bad coil that the engine will shake violently under load, so maybe this is the case, but it definately didn't feel like it to me...

Anyone have any input to this crazy story??

THANKS GUYS!:)

Merry X-mas

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bigbossfan80
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Just a wild guess, but I would be checking the rad fan for a busted clutch.

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

bigbossfan80 wrote:

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On 23 Dec 2004 10:29:05 -0800, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.ca (bigbossfan80) wrote:

||It's been about 8 months now since anything has gone wrong with my 89 ||Cutlass Supreme. I was starting to like not having to repair or ||replace, and instead just maintain!:) || ||But lastnight I drove to Mississauga, Ontario to pick-up my brother. ||It's an hour and a half drive on the highway. Going there, everything ||was smooth as always. But, on the way back, about 20 minutes from ||home, I noticed quite a violent shaking and vibration through the gas ||pedal, floor board, and especially steering wheel/column. For some ||reason I thought right away that it was a transmission thing, but then ||I realized it was doing it in every gear, and ONLY when I was at a ||certain throttle point. || ||For example, if I was 0-20% on the throttle, it was fine, 20-50%, it ||was shaking violently and wouldn't accelerate, and 50%+, it was ||fine!?? || ||It was also making loud, almost grinding noises. And the steering ||wheel shaking could be heard as well as fealt. Same with the gas ||pedal itself, I could feel it pulsating really violently in my foot. || ||Needless to say I was very worried. Once I got onto city streets, I ||noticed it would even do it in 1st gear while starting to accelerate ||initially, then once I got past the throttle point in which it woud ||shake and rattle, it would stop until I was in the next gear and back ||at that same throttle point. || ||It kind of felt to me like something was all-of-a-sudden very loose, ||like something in the steering rack, column, or drive-line. My ||brother is under the impression that it didn't start doing this until ||I had accidently drove over too far on the left hand side and ran over ||all those closely placed BUMPY things to make you slow down. But I am ||not sure this is the case... || ||Anyways, what makes this SO strange, is that once I got off the ||highway and to my parents house, I shut the car off, parked it, and ||went inside for about 20 minutes. Then, when I went to leave to go ||home, I noticed that the shaking and vibrating was completely GONE!!!! || What the hell!!?? Simply shutting the car off and parking it for 20 ||minutes has somehow cured the problem!!?? I drove all lastnight and ||so-far today and it has not done the same thing once! Not even a ||little bit! || ||So this has me totally flabergasted. Because I could see if it were ||an engine problem, then maybe reseting the engine by turning it off ||could possibly fix it, but this in no way felt like an engine problem ||at all! It felt completely like something was phyically damaged or ||disturbed. Maybe I'm wrong? I mean, I know when an engine has a ||mis-fire like a bad coil that the engine will shake violently under ||load, so maybe this is the case, but it definately didn't feel like it ||to me...

Maybe you threw some slush up into somewhere it should be, and it froze? That could cause an imbalance or other unpleasantries. Texas Parts Guy

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rex

An '89 Cutlass doesn't have a radiator fan with a clutch. It's a FWD, transverse engine with an electric fan.

Roger

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Roger Maxwell

I agree with the slushie theory. Ice buildup inside the wheel (after going off the road onto the bumpy things) will throw it off blance. Centrifigal force will keep it there. Stop in the driveway, and the slushie falls away, and voila, problem gone.

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Eightupman

People say I'm nuts for waxing the *insides* of my rims (whenever I buy an old car, if the rims have bad paint on them, I refinish them the first time I buy tires) but this is exactly why I do it. If something does stick to the rim, I just turn a hose on it and it is all better. Besides, a rim that is clean and is consistently kept clean is better balanced than one that is let to get tar, gunk etc. on it.

I mean, I am kind of anal retentive about my car too, but there is a good reason for that particular activity :)

nate

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Nate Nagel

snippage

Had a drunk run me off the road into a muddy ditch early one foggy morning. After the wrecker pulled me out, I had terrible vibration from the front end of my Chevy pickup. Mud had stuck into the inside of the LH front rim.

Garrett Fulton

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gfulton

The Cutlass Ciera had always been front-drive since it's debut in 1982. The Cutlass Supreme switched to front-drive W-Body in 1988. In that same year, production of the rear-drive Cutlass Supreme (now called Cutlass Supreme Classic) continued along-side the "new" Cutlass Surpreme. I don't believe a rear-drive olds was available in 1989 except for perhaps the Custom Cruiser wagon.

Roger

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Roger Maxwell

a baking pan, and fill with a thick bed of onions, celery, green onions, and parsley. Place roast on top with fat side up. Place uncovered in 500° oven for 20 minutes, reduce oven to 325°. Bake till medium rare (150°) and let roast rest. Pour stock over onions and drippings, carve the meat and place the slices in the au jus.

Bisque à l?Enfant

Honor the memory of Grandma with this dish by utilizing her good silver soup tureen and her great grandchildren (crawfish, crab or lobster will work just as well, however this dish is classically made with crawfish).

Stuffed infant heads, stuffed crawfish heads, stuffed crab or lobster shells; make patties if shell or head is not available (such as with packaged crawfish, crab, or headless baby). Flour oil onions bell peppers garlic salt, pepper, etc.

3 cups chicken stock 2 sticks butter 3 tablespoons oil

First stuff the heads, or make the patties (see index) then fry or bake. Set aside to drain on paper towels. Make a roux with butter, oil and flour, brown vegetables in the roux, then add chicken stock and allow to simmer for 20 minutes. Add the patties or stuffed heads, and some loose crawfish, lobster, long piglet, or what have you. Cook on low for 15 minutes, then allow it to set for at least 15 minutes more. Serve over steamed rice; this dish is very impressive!

Stuffed Cabbage Rolls

Babies really can be found under a cabbage leaf - or one can arrange for ground beef to be found there instead.

8 large cabbage leaves 1 lb. lean ground newborn human filets, or ground chuck Onions peppers celery garlic soy sau
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Bob

You are 100% right. Bob

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Bob

seasoning. De-glaze with sherry, cooking off the alcohol. Add broth (optional) cook a few more minutes. Add the cornstarch, cook a few minutes till thick, then place the stuffing into a colander and cool; 2 hours Wrap the rolls: Place 3 tablespoons of stuffing in the wrap, roll tightly - corner nearest you first, fold 2 side corners in, wrap till remaining corner is left. Brush with egg, seal, and allow to sit on the seal for a few minutes. Fry the rolls: 325° if using egg roll wraps, 350° for spring roll wraps. Deep fry in peanut oil till crispy golden brown, drain on paper towels.

Lemon Neonate

Turkey serves just as well, and in fact even looks a bit like a well-dressed baby. By the time you turn the child?s breast into cutlets, it will be indistinguishable. The taste of young human, although similar to turkey (and chicken) often can be wildly different depending upon what he or she has consumed during its

10 to 14 months of life...

4 well chosen cutlets (from the breasts of 2 healthy neonates)

2 large lemons (fresh lemons always, if possible) Olive oil Green onions Salt pepper cornstarch neonate stock (chicken, or turkey stock is fine) garlic parsley fresh cracked black pepper

Season and sauté the cutlets in olive oil till golden brown, remove. Add the garlic and onions and cook down a bit. Add some lemon juice and some zest, then de-glaze with stock. Add a little cornstarch (dissolved in cold water) to the sauce. You are just about there, Pour the sauce over the cutlets, top with parsley, lemon slices and cracked pepper. Serve with spinach salad, macaroni and cheese (homemade) and iced tea...

Spaghetti with Real Italian Meatballs

If you don?t have an expendable bambino on hand, you can use a pound of ground pork instead. The secret to great meatballs, is to u

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Bob

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