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That is the whole point..

***** You have to realize also that we have no kind of national mass transit system as the European countries do.

Train service?? A little, poorly run, expensive via Amtrak. Even in many cities there is no subway, maybe even no bus transport.

This nation is very large and even our mass transport of goods is by diesel trucks.

We will evolved into something, but a 40 mile electric car has all the appeal of a condom with a hole in both ends.

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Lots of savings possible then going in for more trains.

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"Warren Buffett sees strong rail system as key to U.S. growth"

"He argues that railroads represent the future. They're best- positioned to haul the raw material and finished goods for a nation and economy that he insists are bound to grow. Unlike trucks, trains don't have to compete on congested highways. Nor do railroads depend on strapped governments to maintain infrastructure.

"They don't need the government to build them new highways and airports," he says in an interview with USA TODAY. "They've already invested heavily in their infrastructure and technology, and they plan to invest more to keep up with the growing demand.

"They're the only mode of freight transportation that can handle growth. What's not to like about that?"

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Bjorn

Fully agree, but that would be counter to our culture...We are like a crossbreed of lemmings and salmon...we jump off the cliff so that we can swim back upstream and restart the cycle.

There is little logic to our society. There is greed, arrogance, and unwillingness to consider that anyone else in the whole world has an answer to a question that is hobbling us.

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hls

Do a search to look for what is being hauled over long distances on trains today, mostly raw materials that are not needed quickly, vehicles and CONTAINERS both of which are then loaded on trucks for final delivery. Materials that are needed quickly, or on time, are all shipped by long distance trucks.

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Mike Hunter

In many American cities there is no subway, maybe even no bus transport. Warren Buffet says that railroads are best-positioned to haul the raw materials and finished goods for a nation and economy that are bound to grow. Unlike trucks, trains don't have to compete on congested highways. Railroads are the only mode of freight transportation that can handle growth. We have no kind of national mass transit system as the European countries do. _________________________________________________________________________________

Mass human rail transit is a step backward in evolution. People no longer all live within walking distance of a transit station. They were freed by the invention of the automobile to visit, tour, or reside further from the tracks, and in any direction.

Freight rail transit is best used for hauling heavy bulk raw materials to and from sites with storage at a railroad spur. It is not practical to load all commercial freight onto trucks at manufacturers, take it to be reloaded onto trains, then taken form the trains and reloaded onto trucks for final delivery. Time, energy and money are saved by taking railroads out of the loop.

National security is another reason for keeping trucking capability. Rail cars and trucks can be thought of as transports with serial versus random access. They each have their uses but when enemy bombs fall, serial access is quickly killed. Trucks can drive around bomb craters.

Don't let socialist zealots force us onto bicycles and into railroad cars.

Rodan.

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Rodan

Trains are making a comeback in many ways.

They have luxury for personal travel.

They have speed and comfort.

There are innovations of combining the trains which allow you to bring you car along.

There are combinations with rented vehicles at stops.

In cargo the innovations that allow containers to be transported easily of and on.

So the trains do definitely have a bright future and compete well with other means of transport.

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Bjorn

So the trains do definitely have a bright future and compete well with other means of transport.

******* It should be that way, maybe, but it is unlikely to happen in the USA.
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hls

It is already happening

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Obama is going in for more and better trains

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Bjorn

**** If you say so.... I have no great expectations.
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hls

There is currently a high speed passenger train running from Boston the Washington DC. Like ALL long distance passenger trains, running in the US, it is loosing money and sucking on the public teat.

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Mike Hunter

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