Volt san: Toyota Said to Consider Offering Version of Prius Hybrid to GM

Volt san: Toyota Said to Consider Offering Version of Prius Hybrid to GM

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June 30 (Bloomberg) -- Toyota Motor Corp. may offer to supply a version of its Prius hybrid car to General Motors Corp. during a meeting between the companies? chief executives, two people familiar with the plan said.

Toyota President Akio Toyoda and GM?s Fritz Henderson will meet in Michigan in August said the people, who asked not to be identified because the plan isn?t public. A GM-badged car based on the Prius is among the options for new products at a jointly owned factory in California after GM said it would end assembly of the Pontiac Vibe at the plant earlier than planned.

A version of the world?s top-selling hybrid car may help bankrupt GM win U.S. customers and would give it an incentive to keep open the joint-venture factory. Toyota is also considering the plant as a Prius production site after shelving plans to make the gasoline-electric car in Mississippi, two people familiar with the matter told Bloomberg earlier this month.

?Having a stronger line-up is an urgent matter for GM,? said Yoshihiro Okumura, who helps oversee the equivalent of $365 million at Tokyo-based Chiba-gin Asset Management Co. ?Demand will continue to shift to small cars.?

GM currently has eight hybrid models, two of which are Saturns, a brand that GM is selling to Penske Automotive Group Inc. Of GM?s remaining six hybrids, only one, the Chevy Malibu, is a car, according to its web site.

Pat Morrissey, a spokesman for GM, declined to comment on any technology-sharing relationship with Toyota.

GM will launch the plug-in electric Chevrolet Volt next year and plans to have 14 hybrid models in 2012, the automaker said June 1 as part of its bankruptcy filing.

Nummi?s Fate

GM said earlier this month it will stop building Vibes in August at New United Motor Manufacturing Inc., the only large auto-assembly plant on the U.S. west coast, ahead of the Detroit-based company?s initial plan to cut the hatchback in 2010. Toyota, the world?s largest automaker, and GM, the second largest, have shared the factory, known as Nummi, since 1984.

?We have been in discussions with Toyota about potential future products. We have not figured out a product that meets the needs of Toyota or ourselves,? Troy Clarke, president of GM North America, said during a June 26 conference call. ?That dialogue continues.?

Clarke told reporters on June 19 that GM is not in current talks to license Toyota?s hybrid system.

?Nothing has been decided other than halting the production of the Vibe at Nummi,? said Hideaki Homma, a Tokyo- based spokesman for the company. ?A meeting of the executives is also not under consideration.?

Ford Arrangement

Ford Motor Co. licenses Toyota patents as part of its hybrid program, while GM has turned down those opportunities in the past, said Jim Hall, principal of 2953 Analytics auto- consulting firm in Birmingham, Michigan. It might make sense if GM also shares component development for its sedans with Toyota, he said.

?Toyota is not normally in the practice of giving away the crown jewels,? Hall said.

It probably doesn?t make sense to put a hybrid vehicle in Nummi, Hall said. For GM, it would make more sense to share mid- sized pickups such as the Chevrolet Colorado with the Toyota Tacoma, which is built in Nummi now, he said.

Toyota and GM have shared the Fremont, California, plant since 1984. While GM owns half of the plant, Toyota models accounted for 76 percent of output through June 27, according to trade publication Automotive News.

The factory has capacity to make 420,000 cars and trucks a year and employs about 5,400 people, according to the plant?s Web site. In addition to Vibe, which is a version of Toyota?s Matrix hatchback, Nummi builds Corolla small cars and Tacoma pickups.

Toyota on Dec. 15 said it would halt work on the $1.3 billion Blue Springs, Mississippi, factory after plunging U.S. sales created excess capacity at its North American plants. The company early this year said it would pay the interest on bonds issued by Mississippi for plant-related infrastructure.

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Jim Higgins
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Why would GM want to pay a licensing free to offer a hybrid like the Pruis, that is inferior to the hybrid they currently have for sale, in addition to the fact they have the Volt a non-hybrid electric car on the shelf ready to bring to market?

Reply to
Mike

Because it is better, has a good reputation and you don't have to spend a few more billion of taxpayers money to get started. Has more of the kinks ironed out and if GM goes under a second time you can use Toyota parts.

And people that are not pissed off with GM tax screwing them might just buy it.

Reply to
Canuck57

Once again you fail to understand the question asked. The GM hybrid is a superior design, with its TWO electric motors built into the tyranny, the Pruis is outdated technology dummy.

GM is even getting out of its joint venture with Toyota in California, because it is not cost effective for GM, only Toyota because they do not need to pay US federal corporate taxes on the profit from the vehicles made there.

When will you come to realize GM sells MORE vehicles the US than Toyota, obviously more buyers prefer GM over Toyota? If Toyotas are so good why does one see so many of them on the used car lots of domestic brands where they were traded? LOL

Reply to
Mike

You fail to read. Twice the probability of problems, and I am giving GM the benefit of the doubt. Would rather be on the safe side of the blade, let someone else troubleshoot GMs ideas.

Nothing to date is cost effective. What did they do? Mke a profit selling Toyota cars at a GM dealership?

Like has been said by many people many times. Anyone could sell a vehicle completely subsidised by the taxpayers. Now lets see if GM can sell one without costing taxpayers so much!

My guess is not. Welfare needy-greedy types tend to stay that way until they are booted off of corporate welfare.

Reply to
Canuck57

Again you demonstrate that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about! You obviously know nothing about the auto industry or economics.

Reply to
Mike

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