They're trying to get you in the door because they know chances are good
they will find other stuff that needs fixing.
Most people do nothing to their cars until they get an enticement like the
one you got. And neglect breeds big repair bills.
I don't agree. Most dealerships go way above and beyond what is in the
"What is needed" schedule.
I would go as far as to agree to everything that IS on the schedule. Even
that is crap sometime. I learned when at 60k on an accord years ago, they
changed the drain plug. There was nothing wrong with it, but it was on the
schedule. This was YEARS ago.
True, which does no harm except to make your wallet a bit thinner and
your car more reliable.
I myself go above and beyond the official maintenance schedule and have
done so for 16 years. The car now has nearly 300,000 miles on it and is
Replacing a drain plug is NEVER on ANY "maintenance schedule" outside of
TSB or recall replacement. I do not believe you.
The OIL drain plug can require replacement after several removal/
replacements during oil changes.
So, perhaps the mechanic noted that the hex head was becoming a little
worn and relaced it. I replaced mine
on my 2001 Civic a few years ago for that reason, and am about to
replace it again. But I change my oil 4 times per year
due to the high miles I drive (110/day commute). But it is NOT on the
maintenance schedule to replace it.
Chief firstname.lastname@example.org wrote in
Not at all. If not abused, the drain bolt is good for the life of the
The drain pan hole threads, on the other hand, have a tendency to expand
and make the plug fit loosely, eventually stripping the assembly
A new plug can slightly extend the useful life of damaged oil pan
threads just because its thread peaks haven't worn off yet.
The hex head never wears out, unless somebody was inept or used the
wrong tool and rounded it off.
I change my oil six to eight times per year, and have done so for
thirteen years. This is a total of 78 to 104 removals and installations
of the drain bolt. The same drain bolt has been in use for those same 13
years and still torques up to 30 ft lbs with no leaks. The hex is
Torque spec is actually 33 ft lbs, but I go a bit light at 30. This in
order to be gentle on the pan threads.
Current mileage is 290,483. At the pace I drive, I figure it will roll over
by about late winter or early spring.
I post my odometer here:
The local Acura dealer tells me they have two vehicles that come in which
have higher mileage than me: A '97 1.7 EL with 435,000 miles, and some
other car that has about 375K. I don't know the year or model. Original
engines in both. Both still pass emissions.
I don't care who you believe. I am old :-)
This was back around 1982 or so. I was young. Did I see it in writing?
No, but it is what I was told. This is when I made the decision to do my
own work. Up to a point. I'm not going to do a timing belt/water pump
change, but I do most of the other maintenance.
BTW, I just got a Prius after owning nothing but Hondas for the last 27
years. This is going to be a learning curve. I got it just for my commute.
I still have my '05 Pilot and my '06 Accord V-6 NAV. The Prius is a fun
little car. I'm averaging 55 Mpg.
For the extra $100/year it might involve, why not, especially if they
send you flowers afterwards. I'm willing to humor them, a little.
Haven't been to one that would stick an ice pick in your radiator
otherwise, not since some mumble years ago, and it was not Honda.
On Jul 11, 10:03 am, " email@example.com"
My Toyota dealer has their std maintenance (15K, 30K, 60K...) prices
clearly posted behind the service desk. My Honda dealer offers a 1-
page list with the same info. A 10% discount means 10% off the posted
prices. They also will do 10% off any additional work they might
suggest; and they always suggest something additional. Nearly any work
they suggest will be included in their OEM shop guides that also list
the labor time for the work. They charge by those guidelines, that
provide PLENTY of time to do the work (and go for lunch and/or train
another tech. in the procedure). So, no, they don't jack up the
already excessive labor prices.
Gotta luv 'em.
On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
unless a dealer is utterly incompetent managing their franchise, that
simply can't be true. if you check company accounts for fleet
purchases, cars are bought in volume for prices as low as 50% of msrp.
if an end user can buy them that cheap, you can bet the dealer can too.
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