I am thinking about buying the Sonata GLS V6, which is being assembled
in the new plant in AL. (the V4 is still being made in Korea)
I know the Sonata's in the past several years have been well made, but
I am concerned about the change in their manufacturing plant.
If you are a 06 Hyundai Sonata owner, what do you think of its initial
I'll chime in although I only have 800 miles on my GLS V6. Build quality on
mine was about 99%.
I had a small door gasket leak on the driver's side near the outside mirror.
It made a slight whistling sound at 50+ mph. I think it was noticeable
because the car is so quiet to begin with. I pinched the gasket a little and
it's totally quiet now. This is an uncommon problem.
A more common problem is a rear suspension thunking noise when driving
slowly over sharp bumps. Again, the car is so quiet that it makes noises
easier to notice. I suspect someone will find an exact cause and cure real
soon, but I can live with it regardless.
I certainly would not let those problems discourage me from buying the same
car. I do envy the leather seats. Wish I had got the standard LX now, but
I'm still very satisfied.
Not too bad.... A few problems - some of which you could call the dealers
fault, but Hyundai's been no help resolving the issues. Make sure that
there's more than one dealer near you before you consider buying one.
Headlights blind oncoming drivers resulting in them returning the favor.
It's been to the dealer's three times. They adjust hem so they light the
potholes 10 feet in front of your vehicle, or as tree lighters. I adjusted
them down after the last trip, so I only get flashed occasionally.
Vehicle shakes like it has an out of balance tire. This was present on the
initial test drive. Salesman said it was "flat spots on the tires from
sitting on the lot". Took it to the dealer, and they balanced the tires.
Didn't fix it. Next trip back they stole the tires from another car on the
lot. Now it shook, and pulled to the left. Next trip back, they rotated the
tires on the car to eliminate the pulling. It doesn't pull, but it still
shakes a little. The first tire rotation ought to be interesting. A call to
Hyundai "customer service" resulted in them telling me to go find a tire
dealer - really!
Accessory power receptacle - AKA: Cigarette lighter outlet - has no power.
Took it to the dealer over a month ago. They STILL don't have the part (the
socket). Apparently there's still issues getting parts for the '06, as
Hyundai's "customer service" didn't / couldn't help with that either.
The vehicle apparently has an automatic lock feature - start driving it, and
the locks lock - like almost every other vehicle with power locks. But, due
to a poor design, the owner can't turn it on and off like you could in my
2000 Caravan, my 2003 Malibu, and my 2004 Town and Country. You have the
privilege of paying Mr. Dealer $85 to enable it. I knew it had it because I
drove a rental with it. Too bad I didn't know I was going to have to pay to
have it enabled before I filled out the paperwork.
Also, as many others have noted, City / Highway mileage comes NOWHERE close
to the numbers on the window stickers.
There is no "District Manager" or anything similar. I got the "each dealer
is independently owned........" broken record. I was told that if I "don't
like" the service department where I bought it, I should try another dealer.
I bought it in Wilmington NC, and the closest other dealers are between 60
and 80 miles. This is to get problems fixed that were there from mile 0
funny you should ask....J D Power just today asked me to fill out their
initial quality questionaire. ...lots of questions about defects in various
catergories....I didn't check one box. I have 8000 miles on the LX, bought
for Christmas. No defects at all, from cigarette lighter to headlights-I
think Bob's car is the anormally :>)
ps excuse the top post if you will.
I just got the Power survey as well, but I have only 3,500 or so on my
GL. I penned in 4 or 5 boxes, mainly related to the sensitive throttle
(I have stick shift) and the poor HVAC, poor mileage and noise from
under the rear (suspension and gas tank sloshing). Nothing major and
nothing that would have stopped me from buying the car in all
likelihood, all the throttle is coming really close to that. I gave the
can an overall quality rating of 8.
I don't really agree that my car is an anomaly. I'm not having problems that
are all that serious. Tire (or whatever is is) problems and a bad power
outlet. From what I understand, my headlight problems are just a poor
design. The real issue is a dealer service department that is incapable of
fixing the problems that the car does have, and being left out to dry by
Hyundai. Better to find out how problems will be addressed before purchasing
the car than after. Just as important is the support you receive from the
manufacturer if there is problems, as the initial quality of the vehicle.
Bob, I searched the Web for weeks and months before buying my Sonata, and
yours is the first complaint about the lights, lighter, flat spots, and
locks that I have seen. And the 2nd, and the 3rd, and the 4th...
These are not common problems, in spite of your trying to flood the Internet
and make them appear so.
We know that 10% of people are never satisfied with anything. It seems we
have met a "10 percenter".
Another 20% of people do not know how to ask for a problem to be fixed
without being hostile and confrontational. Try being reasonable with your
dealer. Try asking instead of demanding. Believe it or not, it's in your
dealer's best interest to fix your problems.
BTW, my gas mileage (actual, not trip computer) was 25.x and 26.1 with only
800 miles on it.
Well, it's not as simple as I'm not satisfied with it. Overall, the car is
not that bad. The car vibrates badly enough that the passenger seat - if
empty - rocks front to back. The dealer agrees there's a problem, but
putting tires on the car doesn't fix it. As for the headlights, this
http://tinyurl.com/re4ed is how the dealer adjusted them on the first
attempt. I'm supposed to be "satisfied" that I've waited a month and a half
for them to find a replacement power outlet? If they would / could fix the
problems I mentioned (keep mentioning, as you've noticed), I honestly will
be happy with it.
Mine does about 25 on a nice flat highway for 40 miles each direction at 60
MPH with the cruise control on, and the air conditioner off. Sticker says it
should get about 30. Those driving conditions leave little in the way of
variables that the driver could affect.
Thanks...you all have just about convinced me that I should NOT by
buying a Sonata...at least this year. Maybe next year if some of
these 'problems' get worked out.
Thanks again. Now back to shopping....
Your loss Dave!
Do your self a favor. Go drive the car, then go drive the other similarly
equipped Mom Cars. Not 1 of them are totally free from such problems. And
for the price, the Sonata can't be touched.
Am I happy about the niggling little flaws? Of course not! However, even if
I traded it for another car, there would most likely be just as many little
flaws to live with.
Note: I only experienced 1 of the flaws from the laundry list. I think some
may have possibly been fixed in production, because mine has an assembly
date of 2006-01-29.
Yes, you should always drive before buying. I set out to buy a Toyota
Corolla, but after driving 3 different samples, I just couldn't tolerate
the relative position of the pedals, seat and steering wheel. The wheel
was too close to the plane of the pedals. If I set the seat where my
legs were comfortable, my arms were stretched like a banjo string.
Conversely, with the seat in a comfortable position for my arms, my
knees were crunched against the bolster. Toyota really got the wheel
too close to the dash on the current Corolla and a scan of the newsgroup
shows that I'm far from alone in this assessment. So, I took the
$16,000 that a Corolla would have cost and bought a Sonata instead. I'm
fairly happy with the decision overall, but some of the little
annoyances really are pretty annoying. I guess I was too used to the
comfort of my Grand Voyager minivan which had fewer of these issues.
Then again, a new minivan would have cost $10,000 more so you don't get
something for nothing.
For another car in the same price range, I agree.
Which have you and have you not experienced? I'm curious as to which
ones may have been corrected.
The only problem I have experienced is the thunking sound from the trunk
area. The sound reminds me of a loose exhaust pipe rebounding against the
undercarriage. The noise does not happen when the rear wheels suddenly go
up, but when they go back down. (Should that tell us something about the
I have never heard the fuel sloshing, but I suspect it is there. Why do I
suspect that? I was vigorously waxing the trunk lid last weekend, and the
car was bouncing up and down. I could easily hear the fuel sloshing. :)
Maybe it's my hearing. Its generally good, but admittedly not perfect.
There is no perceptible "flat spot" or hesitation in the throttle response
at any speed.
Gas mileage is great at 26.1, and trip computer MPG accuracy is spot on.
There is no tire or driveline noise or vibration at any speed. It's
absolutely jet-smooth from 0-80mph.
What did I miss?
I don't have the suspension sound all that often, but have heard it on
Well, hearing tends to go bad in certain frequency ranges so maybe yours
is just weaker in the range that the tank sloshing sound makes. My wife
doesn't hear the noise much either, but I hear it very distinctly.
I haven't noticed that either. Mine is just ultrasensitive compared to
my other vehicles and the throttle effort is too low. Going across
bumps in the road will jiggle my foot enough to get a PIO going at
times. PIO = pilot induced oscillation for those not familiar with
With the V-6, I wouldn't feel too bad about that as that is in the upper
half of the EPA 20-30 range. However, I only get slightly better with
the 4-banger and am in the lower half of the 24-34 range for it,
actually in the lower third.
Pretty much the same for me as well. The only noise is wind noise and a
whistle from the hood deflector that I installed to protect the sharp
nose of the hood from stone damage in our winters.
The main things for me are the poor HVAC heat distribution to the foot
well area and poor defogging with a car load of people. The seat belts
are also too close to the side of the car making it hard for me to get
my fat fingers in between to grab the belt. And the passenger side
buckle will bang against the side of the car if I go across rolling
bumps that rock the car side to side. The lack of good storage cubbies
that seem to be just a little too small for everything I want to store.
The dash cubby is too narrow for a standard-size 4x6 spiral notebook
that I use to log my gas purchases and maintenance and the console bin
is also too small for this notebook and also too small for the standard
size square tissue boxes that I carry in my vehicles. And the cup
holder rubber insert isn't robust enough to hold a small drink such as a
My single biggest complaint though is the electronic throttle. It makes
driving the stick shift almost more work than fun and I'm a person who
really likes to drive stick shift and have avoided automatics for 30
years. This is the only vehicle I've owned where i regretted getting a
standard shift tranny. And I've driven everything from VW Beetles (the
original Beetle with almost no power) up to tractor trailers. This
throttle is too light, too touchy, and has a slight lag that makes
starting out and shifting smoothly a real high concentration activity.
I'd say the initial quality is less than my 84 Accord was, but that is
my only Japanese car so I don't have much data for comparison. However,
the Honda began to systematically self destruct starting at about 60,000
miles and 4 years of age. The last straw was when the cam and rocker
arms self-destructed at 70,000 or so miles. I'm hoping the Sonata is a
MUCH better quality car than the Honda was over the long haul. To me
"initial" quality doesn't mean much, I want quality that lasts 200,000
miles as with my last minivan (a Plymouth Grand Voyager).
I have an LX, but only have 600 miles on it. The initial quality has
been very good with the my only complaint being noise coming from the
rear suspension. The car has been amazingly quiet. I've heard
various complaints about the gas mileage and I think that after the
car is broken in I should be able to get pretty close to the 30 mpg
highway on the sticker. Had the car out for the first time yesterday
on the road (some interstate, some heavy traffic (Chicago), and some
US highway with stops and slowdowns for towns, and got just under
28MPG doing 60-70 on the open portions.
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