The 2011 Sonata doesn't require a timing belt change at 60,000 miles.
It was one of the drawbacks I had written down when I went shopping
for a new car.
I didn't buy one (yet) but I'm still considering one when we buy a new
car this spring. The problem is, I live near Detroit and with family,
friends and neighbors all out of work, there's too much guilt buying a
foreign car. We may go with a Ford Escape instead.
That being said, I've owned 5 new cars. My 2004 Sonata was the only
foreign car of the 5. And it's by far the best new car I've ever
bought. It's going to be a tough decision to buy American, but I'm
really hoping all their quality issues are behind them.
AFAIK, they have chains now so no belt to worry about, and the cost
associated with it. My V-6 has a shain and that was a factor for me also.
Your 2004 was a foreign car, but the 2011 is made in America by US workers
from many US made parts. (my 2010 is 48% US) I read that in 2011 Hyundai
will be more of a US company than GM. My US made GM car that is falling
apart is why I switched to Hyundai. I have no guilt at all. GM made me a
crappy Buick that I finally just gave away a few weeks ago.
I say "screw 'em" and buy what is best for me.
I'm on my second trouble free Sonata. There have been a couple of shows
on TV that showed the comparable Kia plant and how the cars are made and the
precision of the build. Efficient, accurate, and a good value. I've never
had a Ford or GM car go as many miles with no repairs. Your money, your
choice. Good luck.
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:51:38 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
Yes, I have to do what's best for my family. I have owned 5 brand new
cars. All have been American companies except the Sonata. At 80k
miles, the Sonata has been, by far, the best car. Less problems,
smoother ride, more inexpensive and overall more reliable.
While it's true that the new Hyundai is built in the U.S., the profit
from selling them still goes to Korea. Sure, it keeps some Americans
working, but at much smaller wages than American car maker workers. I
will probably end up with another Hyundai, as I like the style very
much of a few of their models. I just hope the economy continues it's
recent rebound so there's not as much guilt involved in buying one.
When I bought my 2004 (I actually got it in 2003) the economy was in
decent shape. There wasn't as much guilt involved in not "buying
American" My father-in-laws new Ford was assembled in Mexico, with
many foreign parts in it. But like I said, the profits stay here in
It all comes down to quality and value for the money. And as of right
now, it's hard to compare a Hyundai against an American car. They cost
less, are more reliable and are a better value for the money. But
American quality has come a long way to narrow the gap. But the cost
is still higher, so that could be the deciding factor.
Quote ""Sure, it keeps some Americans working, but at much smaller wages
than American car maker workers.""
Everything I have read in the newspapers says otherwise. The reason that
the unions can't get into these factories is because there is no incentive
to vote for the union. No higher wages, but expensive union fees.
Regarding buying "American" and "profits staying here in America", how can
you really know that, and perhaps more importantly how can you know it
benefits you and other people that have to do real work for a living? It
seems naive to believe given the nature of the Global Economy and the
ruthless indifference of corporations for the welfare of workers. Numerous
sources confirm that currently the top 1% of "Americans" own/control 80% of
the wealth. Does it make you feel better to buy a car that is perhaps not
as good and give your money to them? I'd really like to believe that buying
"American" benefits all Americans, but this looks like a myth. At least the
jobs that Americans have building Hyundais in America are real. And no
offense to you and your family. I'm on your side.
I understand your sentiment, but the question is what is best for your
family in the long run as well as the short run. Saving money is good
in the short term. Moving jobs and profits overseas and having chronic
double-digit or higher unemployment may mean that your kids can't find a
job when they grow up. Is that what is best for your family? Just sayin...
Neither. It is better to buy a GM car built in the USA, especially, now
that I am a part owner of GM being an American citizen. :-)
I have no intent to get into a protracted political discussion and my
employer makes 60% or more of its money outside the USA now and that has
been a very good thing during this recession. However, I think our
short term optimization may be hurting us in the long term.
I don't claim to have the answers, but I think we all need to think a
little more about this as we buy things made outside the USA to save a
few bucks. What we save now may cost us or our kids and grandkids
dearly in the years to come.
Just food for thought.
I bought GM for many years, until they sold me crap. That lead me to
Hyundai and much satisfaction.
I agree that we should buy US made when possible, but it is difficult. The
computers we are using right now may be assembled locally, but the
components are mostly Asian. TV, stereo, cameras, toasters, are pretty much
100% Pacific Rim. I bought a hydraulic pump a few weeks ago to replace one
made in Germany. The replacement was made in India. It was for use on a
machine made in Austria as there are none for our industry made in the US
Event he Made in USA GM cars have a lot of imported parts. They have to.
I basically agree with you which is why I said I don't have any easy
I have been fortunate in that the only crap car I have ever bought new
was a 1984 Honda Accord. My GMs have all been quite good cars as have
my Chryslers. I still own one GM and one Chrysler in addition to my
Sonata. My Sonata has been a fine car, but has had as much trouble as
have my American cars and has more design flaws than have any American
car I owned in the last 20 years.
I have not owned a Ford since a 1977 Granada that my wife brought into
the marriage so I can't speak to Fords, but read and hear good things
about them and they earned my respect my not taking direct government
bail-outs. I later learned that almost all auto makers got some form of
assistance including Ford and Toyota so none are as clean as I once
thought, but still Ford didn't sell out to the government as did GM and
I probably won't buy a Hyundai again, but only because the dealer I
bought from went out of business last year and the new franchise owner
is one of these mega-dealers that I don't like and has a spotty
reputation. And, given that I test drove a Chevy Equinox against a
Hyundai Santa Fe and found the Equinox substantially nicer and have
decided on a small crossover as my next vehicle, I will give Chevy more
business. Any my 1994 K1500 keeps soldiering on... :-)
I really wish the Hyundai dealership had remained with the "small town"
dealer as the new Genesis looks pretty sweet. My next car will likely
be in that class of vehicle.
The intervals have started changing since the introduction of the 2005
Tucson. The 2006 Elantra is still 4 years/60k. Check the owner's
manual for the model you'd be considering purchasing. Unless it's an
Accent, it'll probably have chain anyway.
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