Cherokee or Liberty???

Dec 21, 2005 34 Replies

I have not seen anything on it, I'll go look.

:I don't object to any of these new, more : refined vehicles. They would be great *additions* to the Jeep line. : The travesty of it is that they are *replacements* for the utilitarian : vehicles that Jeep has always been known for.

Ok, NOW I get you. AND.. I agree with you on many points. Unfortunately a manufacturer can only produce so many models so some of them have to be changed or replaced to meet market demand. So far, they have been smart and have left the Wrangler alone. Looks like 07 will bring strange new winds. I hope that they do not change it but it's not likely that they will leave it alone. I liked the Cherokee and as I have said before it is what I was looking for when I bought the Libby. Truthfully, I didn't give a thought to the IFS. I was a surprised when I realized it's limitations but by that time it was already mine. For what I want I'm sure it will be fine. Today's requirements for a 'utilitarian vehicle' are considerably different than they were even

20 or even 10 years ago.

:They are watering down : the brand to the point that there is really no longer any reason to pick : Jeep over some other brand. They've turned Jeep into something that is : just as roadworthy as any other brand. Consequently, they have widened : the choice of vehicles I can pick from rather than continuing to produce : the only vehicles I would ever own.

Well written.

KJK

: : : KJ.Kate wrote: : > "Clap Trap" wrote : > -snipped- : > : Even though I'll dis the libby every chance I get, : >

: > Now, I am not trying to start a flame war here bu I have just about had it : > with this crap. : >

: > Why exactly IS that? Seems like a playground chant to me!. : > "My Jeep's better than YOUR Jeep nyaah nyaah nyaah na!"

Yeah, I understand that too. But in the Libby's case, they had to kill the XJ in order to bring it to market. The market for XJs was strong and even growing when the Libby was brought out. They tried to kill it when they brought out the Grand (ZJ?) that was supposed to be its replacement. But demand was so high they had to keep it. They killed it to be able to sell Libbys. They'd still be selling XJs today if they made them.

Of course, not all of this is DC's fault. The XJ would have eventually succumbed to all the crap levied against it by the government anyway. It's just sad that Jeep used to be the only vehicle I would ever own and now, it's just another car.

Does this look familiar ?

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Dave Milne, Scotland

Yep, they would have sold one to me. I didn't want the bulk of the GC I wanted the Cherokee, the Libby was what was there. I looked at a LOT of others and it was still the best choice I thought. Bang for the buck.

: Of course, not all of this is DC's fault. The XJ would have eventually : succumbed to all the crap levied against it by the government anyway. : It's just sad that Jeep used to be the only vehicle I would ever own and : now, it's just another car.

Sorry they ruined it for you.

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: > Yeah, I understand that too. But in the Libby's case, they had to kill : > the XJ in order to bring it to market. The market for XJs was strong : > and even growing when the Libby was brought out. They tried to kill it : > when they brought out the Grand (ZJ?) that was supposed to be its : > replacement. But demand was so high they had to keep it. They killed : > it to be able to sell Libbys. They'd still be selling XJs today if they : > made them. : : : Does this look familiar ? :

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: Dave Milne, Scotland : :

It came up for me - wait a bit for it to come across the globe. Interesting stuff. The City Cruiser looks to me like a Toyota FJ. No TJ look-alike tho.

I do get a kick out of the attempt at English translation:

  • Steel leaf spring and hydraulic shock absorber on rear suspension achieves unanimous comfort of the driver
  • Air conditioning has cold and heat functions to control the temperature .. and then:
  • Three spokes steering wheel increased sense of off road kinaesthesia

Tomes

still got nuttin.

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: > : > Yeah, I understand that too. But in the Libby's case, they had to : kill : > : > the XJ in order to bring it to market. The market for XJs was strong : > : > and even growing when the Libby was brought out. They tried to kill : it : > : > when they brought out the Grand (ZJ?) that was supposed to be its : > : > replacement. But demand was so high they had to keep it. They killed : > : > it to be able to sell Libbys. They'd still be selling XJs today if : they : > : > made them. : > : : > : : > : Does this look familiar ? : > :

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> : : > : Dave Milne, Scotland : > : : > : : >

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bummer that. Maybe you have some setting in your browser getting in the way....

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"Cherokee Jeep adopts the state of art four-wheel drive system and heavy-duty suspension system, in order that the off road capacity to pass through coarse road or slipping snowy and rainy road are fully ensured."

Indeed they do.

Dee-wit Mai, Sa-cot-lan

Interesting

More likely than not. Is is a Flash page? I recently made some changes in my settings and downloaded a *gulp* update - God help me.

KJK

dunno. Maybe write down you settings then go back to the default and try that, then restore your settings. You might be able to restore with the windows system restore as a shortcut back. Tomes

I'd like one of those!

Ed

Unfortunately

You can buy new XJs (Called the Super Cherokee) or the "improved" Jeep 2500 made in Red China

billy ray did pass the time by typing:

considering what the roads are like there, the Jeep 2500 might be a good choice.

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Doesn't look too bad either. It's even left hand drive.

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