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I know, but what you gonna do, apart from what I did to get it back............................

I have a mental image of Austin driving a very large crusty baguette with a motor on the back! :)

(what is a butty in the boating context?)

back............................

I think you mean, "What SOMEONE ELSE did to get it back" don't you?

More like a hot-dog?

A trailer.

Mother"

I was thinking more along the lines of a chip buttie with brown sauce, in fact I suspect I'll be thinking of that for the rest of the night now...

Glad it's not just me ;-)

Do you not fancy Ashton -Huddersfield- Rochdale ( I never did it as the Huddersfield still terminated at Ashton when I was boating) fabulous scenery! Derek

I was thinking crustier so that the hull had some strength! :)

hmm. never thought that a (residential/recreational) barge would need a trailer!

We're bringing the good ship "MUSN Grumble" back to Sheffield next year and have a dilemma as to the route from its current mooring near Rugby.

We could go via Grand Union and Braunston Tunnel (2,042 yards) then up the Leicester section toward the Trent etc...

Or, go via Coventry canal, up the Trent and Mersey to Stoke, then through Harecastle Tunnel (2,926 yards), up the Macclesfield Canal to Aston, then Huddersfields Narrow, through the recently re-opened Standedge Tunnel (5,698 yards) etc.

Prolly the latter methinks.

Have you ever seen the contents of a womans' handbag???

Actually, the butty is more generally associated with working boats.

On or around Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:33:44 +0100, Tom Woods enlightened us thusly:

once they fitted working boats with engines, someone worked out that they could tow another unpowered boat (same as they used to use when they were horse-drawn, more or less) and haul more cargo. The butty would haul more cargo than the motor, on account of not carrying an engine, and losing space to the engine room.

while visiting some friends in Cheshire, on the way to a handy pub, we went to see this:

and found a middle-aged couple with a very nice boat just approaching. took the opportunity to educate the various small people we had along about how locks worked, and got them opening and shutting gates. several of the big kids also played... the boat was a cracker, with a lovely-sounding engine which I think the chap said was 80 years old, sounded like a single-cylinder 4-stroke running at about 150 rpm or so. I was tempted to ask for a look at it, but thought that was a bit cheeky. His missus did a much better job than I reckon I would have at getting into the lock through one gate, too, with no sign of cheats like bow thrusters.

it's rather a short staircase, mind. only 2 locks, but a genuine staircase even so, with just 3 sets of gates.

On or around Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:28:50 +0100, Mother enlightened us thusly:

definitely. I can see I'll have to get a new map. The one we have here is not visible ATM - just found "Stanford's Canoeing Map of England and Wales", showing canals and rivers suitable for navigation by canoes and other light craft.

somewhere, we've got the equivalent for bigger boats, but it's at least 30 years out of date.

Question is, are you going to leg the boat through the tunnel(s)? That's something I want to do, soemtime, just for the sake of being able to say that I've done it.

Get the Nicholson Inland Waterways map - about a fiver or so ISTR.

It's actually frowned upon to do this in many tunnels. Standedge has to be booked and they tow you through with a leccie boat. I'm not sure I'd want to leg it through some of the tunnels anyway - as they're pretty grim what with the water leaking through the roof and the exhaust residue from motor boats that wouldn't have been around in the days of the professional leggers :-(

On or around Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:56:56 +0100, Mother enlightened us thusly:

with boots? bootleggers?

|| i only live walking distance from it & 15 minutes drive from 5 || rise locks at Bingley!

Ah, the five rise locks at Bingley! I spent hours there when the kids were little, getting out of the ex-in-laws house for a "little walk" with the push-chair. Lovely spot.

I presume you named it? that name cant have been a coincidence :)

It was the obvious choice really :-)

its a good one! definitely a narrowboat name!