define: 'everything' some of the fps (first person shooters) games need near nuclear cards to get a half decent frame rate same with video rendering for everything else presuming you have a board with agp
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Derek
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Mar 11, 2008
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I got into this a couple of weeks ago (no, I'm not by any description a gamer). It's brilliant.
On my PC it's PCI or PCI express.
It's a 'small footprint' Dell.
On or around Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:35:08 GMT, "Derek" enlightened us thusly:
AGP is on the way out, I reckon, although one of my machines is still AGP, the more up-to-date one is PCIe x16.
currently has a beast of a Nvidia 7900GTX graphics card, which was specifically chosen for one bit of software that is out of date, not being developed and doesn't play nicely with the next generation of graphics cards.
Should have guessed it would be a later machine I'm set on a stable agp that is at the end of its upgrade path but does everything I need at a decent level. the PCI-e chart is at
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the same results- bargain basement is the Geforce 7600GS at £38 (Aria) but if you need support for DirectX10then the GeForce 8600GT is probably a better buy at £54
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On or around Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:29:36 GMT, "Derek" enlightened us thusly:
The 8500GT is pants. I've got one here, the 7900GTX knocks spots off it.
Anyway, the 9600GT is the new one.
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The 8500GT is pants. I've got one here, the 7900GTX knocks spots off it. Anyway, the 9600GT is the new one
fair enough however the 7900gtx is neither cheap at £198.58 ( if you can find one) nor does it support DirectX10 and neither is it a 8600GT which runs benchmarks
80% faster than the 8500GT
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I guess youmisread the model - should have gone to specsavers :-) and the 9600gt is newer but is about twice the price OP did say cheapest one so I reckon thats a fair compromise. I wish the buggers would stop having all these none intuitive model numbers tho' its like plaiting fog trying to compare and don't mention bloody intel. Derek
On or around Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:08:22 GMT, "Derek" enlightened us thusly:
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I did read it right, but there's a tendency to assume that the 8500GT would be nearly as good as the 8600GT, and it's not.
The 7900GTX was 80 quid, BTW. dunno where you got that price, and yes, they're not easy to find now.
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You got a good price at 80 I reckon they will be waiting a while before it fetchs the money they are asking maybe an error of course tho' it is a 512mb
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even dearer elsewhere
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don't recall if it was that series but some geforce cards could be unlocked to produce stunning performance as they were really a much better card downgraded in the bios. The bios could be flashed to open pipelines and reset the spec. I'd would have offered a radeon but their model numbers and pricing is even more impenetrable I've got a agp cracker stashed away that easily matches my 5900XT
Derek
On or around Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:24:11 GMT, "Derek" enlightened us thusly:
crooks. Mine's a 512, too. There's a thing called coolbitz that you can install in the registry, which lets you play with more settings including GPU clock, graphics ram clock and so on. Dunno if that's the same as you mention below.
"Austin Shackles" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...
I've been discussing this with a mate who's some sort of computer guru, although not PCs, he's a Unix admin and so deeply cynical about the whole PC/Micro$oft thing.
He says the whole thing sounds like some sort of fiddle so that the people who make expensive computers for hard core-games players get to make even more money by fitting a card that gives the same performance as an expensive card but only costs pennies.
He reckons that somewhere there'll almost certainly be a cheap card that'll do everything the expensive ones will, but at about a third the cost.
The trick seems to be to find it...
I think most of the BIOS hacks are to open up the data pipes between the GPU and the memory that have been disabled on the lower cost/spec cards.
Yes thats the Bios upgrade I checked the overclocking sites the 6800 agp cards had 4 pipelines disabled out of a possible 16 that could be reinstated by flashing with a different bios (or by using Riva Tuner) giving a 25% improvement there is a lot of smoke about the 7800 cards being similar but little evidence.
Derek
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