OT ROT Duty of Care?

Yes - but proving anything may be a bit tricky - I don't suppose you noted the mileage before it went in ( I think you might be able to see what I'm getting at......)

Richard

They have a duty of care not to do anything to cause the timing chain to slip but it would doubtless be an uphill task for you to prove what they did to cause it as timing chains can slip if things are going wrong anyway

There's no such thing as justice - I'm a lawyer so I should know !!!

Well, they have a duty not to break it. However, from their point of view they cannot take complete responsibility if things wear out / break etc whilst they have them under their roof.

Burden of proof seems pretty impossible really. Did they thrash it round the carpark after hours? You'll probably never know, unless you have a tracking system or similar fitted.

Never lose them - just some times don't win them !!!

Lost a few cases recently huh?

"There's no such thing as justice" is usually the cry of a defendant being led down the stairs - refreshing to hear it from a lawyer ;-)

In message , beamendsltd writes

And check the engine no when it comes back.

or as explained on Radio 2 earlier this week - you don't fail ... just defer success ;-)

-------------------------------------- "Falling down is not failure.... Failure is not getting up again."

Joskin

David Jacobs' pearls of wisdom.... A classic ;-)

One of the radio stations here in Aus was having a great laugh at that new policy. is it right that teachers are no longer allowed to say "sorry Jimmy but you 'failed' the exam yesterday" but must now say "unfortunately jimmy you have deffered success on the previous exam." i reckon i have just about heard it all by now, but i am certain these wankers will come up with something even more ridiculous next week.

Sam.

To set this in context - this was a proposal by *one* delegate at a conference of the smallest teaching union in the UK. Oddly, the PAT was set up as a pro-conservative anti-strike union, and therefore might be expected to be anti-PC, but there we are. The proposal is likely to be adopted, but given the size of the union, it will have zero influence.

Actually, I can see the point, although not the daft way it is expressed. One of the big problems with UK education today is the way that the comprehensive revolution of the 60s/70s was accompanied by changes to the curriculum that meant that all children had to follow a watered-down academic curriculum, and things like motor vehicle work, woodwork and metalwork were dropped. From this, the less academic children automatically became failures. There was nothing for them to succeed at. The "deferred success" idiocy should be seen as part of a mindset that is looking for ways in which the non-academic can succeed - practical, real-life stuff - rather than condemning them to perpetual failure in pseudo-academic subjects. As a country, we have too many "graduates" in ridiculous disciplines such as media studies, and a shortage of plumbers and electricians. So it isn't all that daft.

But yes, we all had a good laugh at the "deferred success" episode. Our sales teams at work all now refer to a "deferred sale" rather than a "miss".

In message , Julian PollardPOP_Server=pop.freeuk.net writes

Ah, deferred success.

We used to have a system for that, that may not have been prefect, but it mostly worked well enough - Grammar schools and Secondary Modern schools. Mind you, having been a victim of the moron that came up with ITA, all proponents of ill thought out enducation schemes should be made to sweep streets until they think about it properly........ having met a lot of future teachers while courting the ex, making sure they had worked in the real world before teaching might have had some merit.

When the ex was at teacher training college the current "big thing" was that long division was un-necessary. I asked a proponent of this blissfully stupid idea what my hourly rate was if I got 223.80 for a 40 hour week, no calculators allowed. The reply was something along the lines of "ah........."

Much easier than having to work out why the sale failed ;-)

Richard (banned from PTA events for arguing!)