OT: WTF!!!!!!!!!!! Ebay waster

Dec 17, 2007 61 Replies

I just put the purchaser's CC number thru our "card not present" charging facility at work, let the bank take 1.8%, give work 0.7% for using their account and the rest is credited to my bank account every month when I invoice them for the amount due to me. 2.5% isn't a bad hit to take :-)

Ever considered the fact that waiting for feedback is a good way of ensuring the item has been delivered safely and the transaction is complete to everyones satisfaction?

I never leave feedback on receipt of payment there's more to an ebay transaction than just grabbing the money IMO.

Fine, but as long as you leave it once the buyer has contacted you to say that they've got it, if you wait until the buyer's feedback has been received then you run the risk of being seen as one of those sellers who refuses to trust the buyer at all, waiting for the money, then waiting for the feedback too before committing. When I've sold, I've left prompt payment feedback and trusted the buyer to leave appropriate feedback for me rather than not trusting them even to do that despite them trusting me not to send them iffy goods.

It's about a balance of trust, the seller has the main advantage in that the buyer has to trust they're not going to get ripped off. For a seller to insist on that level of trust and then to give *none* back at all even in the minor issue of feedback is not something I view as a good thing.

I've had one or two sellers bitch at me for not leaving feedback, and when I've told them that I leave it after they do, they then either leave appropriate feedback, bitchy feedback, or none at all. The latter two are pathetic.

In well over 100 sales this summer only one buyer got in touch to say the goods had arrived. The feedback is the only way you know the goods have arrived in most sales. Why are you so hung up about this surely getting the goods is more important than feedback?

Indeed, you leave yours so the buyer knows payment's gone OK, then you send the goods, and the buyer leaves feedback when they arrive and are satisfactory.

Ah, I'm "hung up" about it am I..

That is what I do as a seller. I think I state that in my auctions as well (I sell so little I can't remember). If I don't get feedback from a buyer they don't get any from me.

As a buyer I leave feedback when I've got the goods and I'm happy with the transaction.

I don't like it either but you can still get a reasonable indication of the type of buyer they are. Do they just bung a reasonable bid in when they see the item, they win or they don't. Do they bid low then increment. Do they snipe?

My single neg is from a prat yank who thought the camera I was selling was a digital one, despite the word "film" being mentioned 5 times in the listing! I left a very carefully worded neg for him, his on me is just a rant. Sold the camera for about a fiver less to the next highest bidder who was well pleased.

Nice idea but a seller does not have to publish questions/answers. I'm not sure if that applies on a per question basis or on all questions though.

Simple solution dispute it with your CC company. Let them claw the money back out of paypal and let paypal worry about getting it back from the seller.

On or around Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:02:42 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice" enlightened us thusly:

I'm not sure you get the option about questions. Answers, yes.

On or around Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:55:07 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice" enlightened us thusly:

I fell foul of that one, though, myself. Bought RAM (admittedly, cheap unbranded) which later turned out to be defective, after I'd left feedback. can't change feedback once it's there and all I got from the seller was a load of bullshit. Once I'd decided that the memory was the problem, I tested it properly and one of the 2 modules produces strings of errors, if you swap them around in their slot pair (it's a dual channel thing) then the errors move to a different address block. Pretty conclusive, but all I get from the seller is "what make of machine" - it's not got a "make", it's one I assembled, but I gave the motherboard spec and chip spec in detail, and got back "please tell us the make of the machine".

so don't buy from fastmemoryman.

the other pair of modules, crucial ones, work fine apart from I still get some page faults, but I'm reasonably certain that's the display drivers. Serves me right for going all 64-bit... and TBH, almost all the software is still 32 bit, so I doubt it gained me much.

On or around Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:42:22 +1300, EMB enlightened us thusly:

yebbut, you have the opportunity to do that, most people including me don't.

On or around Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:57:22 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice" enlightened us thusly:

you can tell some of that, but you can't look at what they're also bidding on. I've seen people with bids on rafts of stuff, chances are they're not going to buy all of it, for example, or bids on many similar items of a kind that most people only need one of.

That wouldn't change no matter whether you waited until the seller had left feedback or not though.

RAM is bloody irritating stuff, it's one of those things that you can never be quite sure is OK even if you memory-test it! In future though you can get memory tester discs, check out this one;

formatting link

Maybe the ULRC should set up such a facility for it's members. Or it might be a nice sideline for Cothi Taxis - CC payment processing for afl regulars (clipping the ticket suitably of course).

Austin Shackles wibbled

I have what I'd guess would be an 'odd' pattern for bidding. I search mostly for newly listed items, so generally put an early bid in at a low starting price. That way the items at the top of my 'My ebay' page "Items I'm bidding on". If the bidding is still lowish and I _really_ want the item I might put a midway bid in that's about half the final value I place on what I want ... then make sure I'm present to see how the bidding goes in the last half hour. If it's still lower than my maximum I wait until 30 seconds and put in my max bid then, see below.

Generally this means I often win at below my maximum bid, which if I'd put it in earlier I might have had to pay, or more likely someone will continue and overbid me.

I don't get 'bidding fever', I have a set amount and stick to it within a few quid. I also, of course always bid to max + 23p, 55p, 77p, whichever I feel like, it's amazing the number of auctions one wins for just 23p. ;)

I _do_ like to see how other people are bidding though and dislike the 'bidder 1' system or private bids. I held an auction once where I inadvertantly selected 'private bidding' and I'm sure the item went for about 1/3rd less than its true value.

On or around Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:50:45 +0000, Ian Rawlings enlightened us thusly:

yebbut, if I'd not been so hasty with the OK feedback, I could've put "fast transaction but goods faulty and pain in the arse to get refund" Or summat.

That's how I know it's faulty - ran memtest 86+ on it - windows by itself doesn't pick anything up. Memtest clearly showed it faulty, and this was proved by the fact that the faulty addesses move when you swap the modules around.

On or around Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:37:21 +1300, EMB enlightened us thusly:

heh. 's a thought. However, I reckon it'd be a lot of hassle.

On or around Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:41:19 +0000, "Paul - xxx" enlightened us thusly:

I do that. But I like to try to time it to land my bid at end -3 seconds, mainly 'cos it's more fun.

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