Rivnut tool?

Go to google and search for "rivnut setting UK", I spotted a few while I was looking for brake liner riveting gear. Pretty much the first link I clicked had the tool for a little under £50.

have you tried the tool trader in Merlins Bridge? They're pretty good for stuff like that. What are you trying to do again?

I'll have a phone around and see if anyone's got one

Dave

I'm a lttle hesitant to comment on this without knowing which version of Rivnut we're talking about and/or whether we're talking the generic sort of thing or the genuine.

Two thoughts:

If the 'Rivnut' is the type with a very small flange that is designed to be almost flush with the surface, they are very sensitive to the hole size into which they are being installed. It's very difficult to achieve a decent result unless the Rivnut just fits the hole before you start. If the hole is oversize even the proper tool won't help.

I'm struggling the visualise your description. If the collapsed 'Rivnut' falls into the hole my first suggestion is the likely issue. If, however, the expanded bit falls outside the hole it's likely that the components were not fully in contact before you started the installation. All the parts outside the hole must be fully in contact with each other throughout the installation process if it's to work properly - especially if the hole is oversize. The proper tool will help you to maintain this contact.

I have one, where are you?

Its the usual factory fastening used on the mudflaps on the RRC and Disco if you want to get a quick peek.On replacement most folk use a round or panhead head bolt and lock nut which at first glance appear similar but are more easily removed. Derek

||| Anyone know anywhere I can buy or borrow a rivnut setting tool? ||| ||| I've spent all day trying to fit the access ladder to the rear door ||| and have ruined 6 rivnuts (all I have) using the non-standard ||| technique (loose bolt/washer/flat metal strip and tighten until it ||| crushes). All 6 rivnuts crushed beautifully, but each time the ||| expanding bit was too close to the rim at the top and they squeezed ||| out of the hole rather than lock themselves in. I'm sure my ||| technique isn't perfect, but I need to do a good job, so I'm now on ||| the lookout for the "proper" tool. Instead of the "proper tool" ||| who has mangled it so far :-) ||| ||| Willing to pay hire charge if anyone has one they would care to ||| lend... ||| || I have one, where are you?

Pembrokeshire, West Wales. The nuts I'm using are M8 - will yours do this size?

richard dot brookman at btinternet dot com if you want to talk off-group.

Thanks

|| On 2006-05-13, Richard Brookman wrote: || ||| Anyone know anywhere I can buy or borrow a rivnut setting tool? || || Go to google and search for "rivnut setting UK", I spotted a few || while I was looking for brake liner riveting gear. Pretty much the || first link I clicked had the tool for a little under £50. || ||

Yeah, had a good Google about it, and found that site. Problem is, the cheaper tools (~£50) only seem to handle up to M4 or M6, and the ones that can go up to M8 and beyond are £90-£120 before the dreaded VAT & carriage. The sites that come up on Google seem to be specialist fastener companies. None of the usual LR suspects, which surprises me, given the common use of rivnuts on Landies.

|| have you tried the tool trader in Merlins Bridge? They're pretty good || for stuff like that. What are you trying to do again? || || I'll have a phone around and see if anyone's got one || || Dave

Cheers Dave!

|| Richard Brookman wrote: || ||| Anyone know anywhere I can buy or borrow a rivnut setting tool? ||| ||| I've spent all day trying to fit the access ladder to the rear door ||| and have ruined 6 rivnuts (all I have) using the non-standard ||| technique (loose bolt/washer/flat metal strip and tighten until it ||| crushes). All 6 rivnuts crushed beautifully, but each time the ||| expanding bit was too close to the rim at the top and they squeezed ||| out of the hole rather than lock themselves in. I'm sure my ||| technique isn't perfect, but I need to do a good job, so I'm now on ||| the lookout for the "proper" tool. Instead of the "proper tool" ||| who has mangled it so far :-) ||| ||| Willing to pay hire charge if anyone has one they would care to ||| lend... || || I'm a lttle hesitant to comment on this without knowing which || version of Rivnut we're talking about and/or whether we're talking || the generic sort of thing or the genuine.

These were M8 rivnuts from Richard Beamends, Defender heater box for the use of.

|| If the 'Rivnut' is the type with a very small flange that is || designed to be almost flush with the surface, they are very || sensitive to the hole size into which they are being installed. It's || very difficult to achieve a decent result unless the Rivnut just || fits the hole before you start. If the hole is oversize even the || proper tool won't help.

I drilled the holes so that I had to tap the rivnuts in with a light hammer.

|| If, however, the expanded bit falls outside the hole it's || likely that the components were not fully in contact before you || started the installation.

I thought they were, but obviously not. Given the torque you need to apply to crush the rivnut, it's pretty hard to keep things lined up and in contact, I suppose. The tools I used were the same as those supplied by LR as a fitting kit with the ladder when I fitted it to the last Disco (basically a metal bar with an 'ole in it).

|| Its the usual factory fastening used on the mudflaps on the RRC and || Disco if you want to get a quick peek.On replacement most folk use a || round or panhead head bolt and lock nut which at first glance appear || similar but are more easily removed. || Derek

Except that the mudflap fastenings aren't blind like the door panel of a Disco, which is the reason for using rivnuts in the first place.

When I fitted the ladder to the previous Disco, I managed to fix the rivnuts in the door top but totally failed with those below the no. plate light. I did indeed fit through bolts and locknuts there, but taking off the inner door panel and getting the locknuts on the bolts from behind needed three hands and fingers like Spiderman. I ended up soldering one nut to a length of wire to get it into the right position behind the door lock. That wouldn't be possible in the top of the door frame, of course. That's why I was hoping to use the proper rivnuts, but do it right this time. :-)

Hi Rich,

I've found someone that's got one that you can have on an overnight loan, give me a shout if you want it

Dave

|| Hi Rich, || || I've found someone that's got one that you can have on an overnight || loan, give me a shout if you want it || || Dave

You have text.

Ah, in that case, too far away, and too large! I'm in Lancs., and mine only goes up to M6.

So Richard needs a bigger tool to crush his nuts ?

Steve

And he needs nuts he can screw with.

Oh the possibilities.

...because the hole his nuts fit into is the wrong size and the shoulder sticks out too far ?

"Wow", said the young man after making love to his new girlfriend, "you've got a big c++t big c++t, big c++t" "Why did you have to say it three times, blurts the girl, in tears. "I didn't, that was the echo"

Steve

On the subject of Rivnuts etc, for those within easy reach of Todmorden (on the Yorkshire/Lancashire border) the firm of Harmsworth, Townley & Co Ltd have some offers on at the moment for setting tools and so on. Apparently they are moving to smaller premises, and a lot of stuff is up for sale. There are special offers until the end of this month.

recently inherited the company from her father?), the old place is a wonderful rabbit warren of un-thrown-away bits and pieces, and a real Alladin's cave. But they are modern enough to have a website

I think my sister may have married her -- not, that's not what it seems... as Superintendant Registrar for Todmorden until a couple of years ago, my sister performed many marriages in the town, and the wedding of the lady in question fell into the right timescale.

GRAEME ALDOUS (The other end of) Yorkshire

The trouble is that specialist tools factors don't offer a decent margin, so I/we'd have to charge more than their asking price, and hence no sales. If anyone knows a pervayor of such tools who does do a decent trade discount without having to buy a loory load at a time I'd love to know.

Richard

||| Pembrokeshire, West Wales. The nuts I'm using are M8 - will yours ||| do this size? ||| || Ah, in that case, too far away, and too large! || I'm in Lancs., and mine only goes up to M6.

Never mind, and thanks anyway!