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Dave...

Don't do it... I can appreciate your frustration. But I've got rid of cars with intermitant faults (and declared the fault to the buyer) only to find 2 weeks later a fresh pair of eyes had the problem sorted for a few quid and looking from a different perspective.

Have you considered dumping it on RPi's door for a while to let them run some diagnostics on it... your intermitent fault doesn't seem that intermitant if you leave it with them to run around in for a while. I wish I had a simpler answer but anything else is going to set you back financially to the point that you may as well have kept the Disco and given the loss on the toys on that again another bitter pill....

Stick with it...If you like I can run a feature on it on my site "Project Drat (rather than Dredd)" ;-) on the proviso that you don't fix it any quicker than 3 years!

Lee D

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I know, annoying isn't it. Either way I'm going to have to spend on the P38. But I can either spend very little and flog it to a dealer, spend a little more and sell it to a private buyer for more, or spend a lot and keep it. The problem with the third option is that I have a nasty feeling I could keep spending and spending over the next 3 years, so I'm wondering if it would be better to cut my losses, take a hit now and save over time.

I have the added complexity of wanting to get something (again!) suitable to take to Iceland next year. A Disco TD5 would do the job, and save me buying, taxing and insuring a third car.

There's a very sexy Disco for sale on mud-club.com but I don't think it would go down too well in the corporate car park...

I really wish I could have kept the Disco but even with the benefit of hindsight it wouldn't have been practical.

The P38 is still on probation, but it's not really acquitting itself at the moment :(

David

Oh, I forgot to mention. A friend of mine's father (retired financial director of a well known football club) has had a P38 for several years. He's spent an unbelievable 52 GRAND on repairs on it so far. He hasn't got rid of it yet, though, because he likes it so much and he can afford it - but I can't!

David

|| | I wish ||| I |||| had a simpler answer but anything else is going to set you back |||| financially to the point that you may as well have kept the Disco |||| and given the loss on the toys on that again another bitter |||| pill.... ||| ||| I know, annoying isn't it. Either way I'm going to have to spend ||| on the P38. But I can either spend very little and flog it to a ||| dealer, spend a little more and sell it to a private buyer for ||| more, or spend a lot and keep it. The problem with the third ||| option is that I have a nasty feeling I could keep spending and ||| spending over the next 3 years, so I'm wondering if it would be ||| better to cut my losses, take a hit now and save over time. || || Oh, I forgot to mention. A friend of mine's father (retired || financial director of a well known football club) has had a P38 for || several years. He's spent an unbelievable 52 GRAND on repairs on it || so far. He hasn't got rid of it yet, though, because he likes it so || much and he can afford it - but I can't! || || David

I agree with Lee - don't do it. After the RR, the Disco will disappoint you to tears - underpowered, oversized and clumsy to manoeuvre. I swapped my Td5 Disco for a P38 and I don't regret it at all. Mind you, I had 12 months LR warranty on the RR, and I've made full use of it, so perhaps that's a bit unfair, but looking back I would have done it anyway. Think long and hard.

On or around Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:16:00 -0000, "David French" enlightened us thusly:

and one who doesn't read AFL... :-)

seriously though, I understand your frustration but as Lee says, it's quite likely to be a silly simple fault, in the end.

for the most part, the P38s seem to be as reliable as any other.

If you're after simplicty I really would suggest the latest 300 TDi which isn't EDC (summat around R reg) - There's a certain amount you can do by way of tuning 'em without spending silly money - basically, bigger intercooler, up the boost slightly and adjust the pump to suit. Even leaving the boost standard, you can do a bit by getting the pump settings right.

The TD5 is at least as complicated wiring-and-electronics wise as the P38, and not devoid of faults, from what I hear, although mostly they're pretty good.

And of how much use is a LR warranty? The Land Rover Approved Used Car Warranty here in Australia won't cover you for a faulty ENGINE BLOCK!!!!- as I have found out through bitter experience. I'm told it covers the pistons, the bore, the liner- but not the block, which is defined as a casing. My block has developed a leak between the alloy block and one of the liners. Water seeps up the outside of the liner & into the bore when the engine is turned off, exhaust gas goes the other way when it's running (after a rough start due to water in the cylinder) & pressurises the cooling system. I allege that this pressure blew the o-rings on the heater core (which the warranty DID pay for). I'm told LR are looking into the matter- shall report back when I get an answer. In the meantime, after spending over $45,000 for a 5-year-old car (+$2000 of which was the warranty), I HAVE NO TRANSPORT. LR HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANY, NOR HAVE OFFERED TO PAY FOR A HIRE CAR.

As you may have detected, I'm a trifle ticked off by all of this. This vehicle wasn't just transport to & from work, it was supposed to enable me to carry out my work- service customers etc. So I've lost income as well.

Sir, I suggest you sell the car while it still runs.

in article lMQXb.6323$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net, Lee_D at snipped-for-privacy@histerminalhat.freeservecoat.co.uk wrote on 15/2/04

Isn't the saying "better the devil you know than the devil you don't".One reason for not giving up on our Discovery and trading it in for another one, which we have thought about on more than one occassion. Its now got a full MOT, will be taxed in the morning and after I've been to Kent this weekend for my Grandpaents 70th Wedding Anniversary party, will be taking it to someone who used to work at our local and useless Land Rover dealers, who seems to know what he's doing - he sorted the Range Rover's cutting out problems in three hours, tuned it and did a basic service for £47. I have to agree with Lee. RPI have a good reputation where V8's are concerned - just a shame its a fair distance from where you are.

There's a specialist (somebody else called French IIRC) in Oxford, who claims to be an expert in this type of problem, but getting it there would be tricky. Unless I wait for it to break down again and get it relayed there.

If it's playing up tomorrow morning, that's exactly what I'm going to do in fact.

David