Re: Sludge-Maintenance manual interval changes

Dec 17, 2003 46 Replies


> a lot of engines with blocked oil-filters.


>
> Check auto-rx.com.
> They require installing a new oil filter, running with their
> product for a few hundred miles and then changing it. For Camry
> V-6, repeat again.
> Not solvent based where it all releases at once, but similar
> chemistry to synthetics, so works best with conventional motor oil
> during treatment period.
> I never had sludge, but advertised to remove varnish from piston
> ring lands, and from the surface of engine seals.
> Cheap enough to try. Seems safe enough. Haven't seen any negative
> feedback from anyone who has actually_used_ the product,

Will SOMEBODY who ACTUALLY intends to use AutoRX ... PLEASE pop off a valve cover and take a picture of the valve train. Then follow the treatment directions and then ..... take another picture of the same valve train FOR COMPARISON .... and POST THOSE PICTURES.


Thanks. ;^)


Already been done:

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You are welcome.

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-- Curtis Newton snipped-for-privacy@remove-me.akaMail.com

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Chris: Thank You!! I looked over all the photos. Of particular interest were images (Before) preARX10 and (After at 2000 miles) DSCF0005. This engine while varnished is not "sludged" up with the kind of goop that would burry all but the cams and drive chain from view. There is some -varnish- removal from using the product.

Since hearing of this product about year ago, I emailed AutoRx asking for "same engine" progress photos. The official response I received was very defensive and a put-off. "Same engine" progress photos make a much better testimonial.

"Philip®" spake unto the masses in news:ihPDb.7752$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:

Very interesting. rms13.com no longer seems to exist, so I am unable to see those pictures. Go to

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type in rms13.com and see what it gives you.

Do you think this ARX10 stuff would fix the engine shown here?

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Tegger: My ol Prizm got oil changes in the 4-5k mile range.... not

3k miles. Minor point.

The GOOPED engine view contributed by MDT Rick is the kind of sludge accumulation (forget the varnish) I would like to test AutoRX.

Your Honda is the sort of example (very very mild) that AutoRx might be effective against. BUT.... the level of varnish present in your Honda is in NO way detrimental at the level shown.

Why should sludge removal be necessary on a vehicle that has under 70K on the clock that had normal warranty required oil changes? Do manufacture generally suggest that be done on two or three year old vehicles?

mike hunt

"Philip" wrote:

Oil servicing appropriate to the operating conditions will preclude sludge formation ... exclusive of a mechanical or materials deficiency. Need I point out again that motorcycles do not sludge up and do not have positive crankcase ventilation systems. Sludge is therefor a result of operating with contaminated oil for extended periods.

Did you try going directly to the site? It worked for me today.

Scot

"Philip®" spake unto the masses in news:jo%Db.7922$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

Will fix that. Planning major overhaul of site.

snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com (Scot) spake unto the masses in news: snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com:

That site is DOWN. Anyobody still able to view it is pulling the files off their ISP's caching servers.

rms13.com is not currently associated with any IP address, which usually means one of three things:

1) The registarnt did not pay his DNS bill (if billed for that separately) or 2) The registrant didn't pay his domain rent (not the case here) or 3) The operators of the Web site at that IP address have committed violations of the Terms of Service Agreement of whichever company had hosted it last and have been cut off.

I vote for #3. These guys probably also spamvertise G*e*n*e*r*i*c V*i*a*g*r*a and P*e*n*i*S P*i*l*l*S. They're scum.

They may be back up again within days, with a new IP address and hosting company.

snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com (Scot) spake unto the masses in news: snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com:

FURTHERMORE:

The registrant info for rms13.com is bogus:

Registrant: a b 3108 nonyabiz south, Louisiana 72020 United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com Domain Name: RMS13.COM Created on: 29-Jun-03 Expires on: 29-Jun-04 Last Updated on: 29-Jun-03

GoDaddy is notorious for being popular with spammers. Sort of tells ya something about this snake-oil being peddled to you through rms13.com.

How do four stroke motorcycles ventilate the crankcase? Even Briggs and Stratton engines have a crude form of positive crankcase ventilation (at least the later ones). I would have thought that emission requirements would have forced some sort of crankcase ventilation system on four stroke engines (but not necessarily 2 stroke engines). A quick Google search reveals that at least a few motorcycles do have PCV valves.

Ed

Sorry Ed... no motorcycles have a positive crankcase ventilation valve, with the exception of BMW boxers and Italian twins. These particular motorcycles use a reed valve to take advantage of violent pressure/vacuum cycles in the crankcase to move blowby into the air box between the air filter and the carburetor... a variation on passive ventilation system. A positive crankcase ventilation system is distinguished by a variable air flow valve (rated in CFM) directly connecting the engine crankcase to the intake manifold which (with the engine running) positively facilitates air movement from the former to the latter.

Motorcycles, some older Toyota 4 cylinder engines, and your Briggs/Stratton example do not have a PCV valve system. The system they use is passive ... requiring the crankcase to pressurize slightly in order to facilitate crankcase blowby to move into the intake air stream on the atmosphere side of the throttle.

Ed, they just dump it to atmosphere on my 4 stroke dirt bike.

Shame on those dirty bikes.

The site is working now (19 December 2003; 11:03am MST).....when I did a 'whereisip' lookup, he still has the same registry data andthe site is working.

I will pull down some photos tonight from the site if you still can't get to it. Let me know.

I will tell you, on bobistheoilguy.com forum, he was tired of seeing all of the praise about the AutoRX product and decided to run a test of his own.

He lays out the story on the web site.

I don't know the guy, but based upon his early posting, I believe what he did.

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-- Curtis Newton snipped-for-privacy@remove-me.akaMail.com

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Can you get to the photo gallery:

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-- Curtis Newton snipped-for-privacy@remove-me.akaMail.com

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Curtis Newton spake unto the masses in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

It is NOT WORKING. You are pulling the files off your ISP's caching server. It is NOT THERE ANY MORE.

Whereisip gets its info from the exact same place everybody else does. It's just a front end for using Internic's and ARIN's database, and the database for the whois server that holds the domain registration info.

Please start up whereisip and tell me what IP address is associated with that domain.

I just went to the site and it seems to be working.

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-- Tony Marsillo Nutmeg Repair

REALLY? Where on his website are the finding from his test? Also, I notice one his SUPPORTERS is ... AutoRx.

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