Mini Review...

Yes - the bus lanes are a bad joke. I'm happy with the idea in principle at busy times where there are lots of busses, but they seem to be more used as a way of generating income from fines on the unwary. It is almost impossible to read when they are active or not in busy traffic, so most just avoid them to be safe.

But even with no bus lanes and light traffic most still drive down the middle of the road.

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Dave Plowman (News)
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Drivers who refer to the 'fast' lane normally mean the middle lane.

No, they close up to stop slower traffic moving into the 'fast' lane.

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Nick Finnigan

They do in London town, and cyclists there keep to the left regardless. Road users in other towns behave differently.

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Nick Finnigan

When I visited London I had no problem reading when they were active, and making use of them to overtake other traffic.

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Nick Finnigan

Which law do you think should change? I overtake on either side legally.

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Nick Finnigan
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Not IME.

Chris

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Chris Whelan

For our bus lanes (not London) we need an accurate watch/clock. It can be difficult to read the fairly small type and interpret properly - "Mon

- Fri" - but it is bank holiday Monday, does it still apply? By law, I am sure it does, but judged by what drivers actually do, it would appear not.

I would be very much happier if bus lane signage had two lights - for for "active", the other for "inactive".

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polygonum

If the middle lane is available then you should be in it.

  1. Not getting trapped by lorries
  2. Not blocking cars joining from slip roads The outer lanes is usually by far the most populated, so that defeats the moral point.
Reply to
johannes

This argument doesn't hold up. As I just surmised, there is usually twice as much room in the middle lane than if the 'fast' lane. Plenty of room to move out of the 'fast' lane if that is what they *really* want.

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johannes
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Did you not read the link I posted?

Regardless of your opinions, you are required to comply with relevant laws and regulations when using UK roads. Amongst other things, in almost all circumstances you are required to occupy the left-most lane unless overtaking. Nothing you think matters - that's the law.

Chris

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Chris Whelan

Do you drive in the UK? If so then you should abide by the highway code. The Police do now have a specific offence of 'lane hogging' with a one hundred pound fixed penalty.

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Mrcheerful

But your argument about why drivers has to stay in the outer lane doesn't hold up, as I just explained. They are as guilty as anyone.

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johannes

There is no such thing as a fast lane on UK roads.

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Mrcheerful

Then explain why driving close in the fast lane isn't lane hogging?

Some posters here will say that the middle lane drivers prevents them from pulling over, but this is balooney; I never had any problem when pulling back after a short burst in the outer lane. The middle lane is much less occupied, and any sensible driver vill give room for a car indicating to pull over.

I know about the new so called middle lane hogging rule, but IMO it is based on misunderstanding of motorway dynamics. Just like in computing, three wires can carry more signals than one. Hence the traffic tends to spread over three lanes.

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johannes

By all means travel in all inner lanes IF the level of traffic is sufficient to make them all in use, but if it isn't then all traffic should be on the nearside lane.

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Mrcheerful
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It's not *my* argument; I'm not justifying what is right or wrong. UK law has already done that. How is that so hard for you to understand?

Chris

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Chris Whelan
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FFS - THERE IS *NO* FAST LANE!

If drivers in the right-most lane are travelling faster than those in the lane to their left, they are not 'lane hogging'. They are using the lane correctly by overtaking.

Chris

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Chris Whelan

Nonsense, and you know that. They are not overtaking if there is plenty of space to pull in, and nobody is preventing them. As said, any sensible driver give room if overtaking car is indicating to pull in. I never had any problem. Drivers in the fast lane just like to stay in the fast lane.

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johannes

No, the law is only that you keep left when other traffic wants to pass. Johannes can use the middle lane to have more room until a car catches up.

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Nick Finnigan

It depends how much space there is in other lanes. If all lanes have traffic driving close. nobody is lane hogging.

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Nick Finnigan

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