Minor Fiesta window motor oddity.

I just noticed something odd while parking up. After closing both front windows, as they reached the top (and with the buttons still pressed), the revs dropped to maybe 500 rpm for a second, and quickly recovered to the usual 800 or so. Releasing the buttons made the revs rise to maybe 1100 momentarily. Playing with the buttons reveals that it does it every time. I assume it's due to the alternator working harder and the computer compensating when the revs drop. But the thing is, I haven't noticed this before. Is it normal?

Reply to
Ivan Dobsky
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perhaps your battery is getting weak.

Reply to
Mrcheerful

It did cross my mind, but it seems unlikely in summer. I'll get a voltmeter on it later.

Reply to
Ivan Dobsky

Might be worth checking battery connections, earth strap etc.

Tim

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Tim+

But given you're stalling a largish DC motor you'd expect a bit of a drop, possibly worth cleaning the idle control valve as well.

Reply to
Duncan Wood

Do they have a one press function where the window closes totally? If not, you're forcing the motor to stall, and it will take more current than when moving, so I'd say it's likely normal.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

No, there is no one-press function. I realise I'm probably passing current straight through the windings, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was normal, but just wondering if anyone else had seen it. It seems odd that there is nothing to stop you doing something which seems as if it could be damaging.

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Ivan Dobsky

Haynes Manuel says the IACV is not fitted to the 16V engine (which is what I have). Tickover is very high when it's cold, so I've already tried to find this.

Reply to
Ivan Dobsky

It's how most early/basic electric windows work - they simply stall the motor at full travel. Won't do any harm for a short period. Many have a circuit breaker which trips if you exceed a current limit for more than a few seconds. Which would protect the motor.

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Dave Plowman (News)

all modern engines have some form of idle speed control. on older 16 v fiesta 1.25 it is at the front of the engine bay down low where the throttle body is.

Reply to
Mrcheerful

one of my cars has a sticky up switch, if it gets stuck and you don't realise, after a short time some sort of overheat thing in the motor operates and clicks every few seconds as it resets and trips again.

Reply to
Mrcheerful

It's 1.4 Zetec. Do you know offhand if it's in the same area?

Reply to
Ivan Dobsky

depends on the year, early ones have a standard idle air control valve, later ones use a throttle control motor

Reply to
Mrcheerful

It's 2003. I don't know whether that's early, late, or middling :) I remember spraying out the missus's Ka one with carb cleaner. The bolt holes sticking out of the side made it look a bit like a ray (the fish). Do all Ford ones look like that?

Reply to
Ivan Dobsky

Most Ford IACV look like that. But 2003 Fiesta 1.4 uses a throttle valve control motor (to the left of the middle of the engine at the front about half way down ), NOT an IACV

Reply to
Mrcheerful

Okay, thanks. In view of that, is it still worth checking it? Presumably, spraying it with carb cleaner isn't going to help :)

Reply to
Ivan Dobsky

Often that is specifically warned against. Have a look by all means, but be careful.

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Mrcheerful

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