window motor problem

hi yeh they are a pain to change, outside panel has to come off,mirror,then a piece of trim along top of that panel,outside door handle,then the inside panel has to come off also, plus you need special tool to separate glass from regulator assembly.then rivets have to be cut from motor. i have changed both front ones on a 93. I got mine at napa but i think if you get them from saturn you get regulator assembly with motor.

WHOA!

Suddenly the idea of switching the internals of my 95 manual door window setup with my 94's electric windows sounds like a challenge greater than is really feasable....

-WaV

justastreek> hi yeh they are a pain to change, outside panel has to come off,mirror,then

I've pulled window regulators several times. It's not too difficult or time-consuming. Hardest part is getting the fasteners off which attach the regulator to the window glass without breaking (or being afraid of breaking) the glass. I've been able to do it with some practice with a good quality Visegrips, penetrant, and lots of patience. But the special tool would make it a lot easier.

Drilling out/grinding the rivets shouldn't be a problem either. Just buy a Haynes/Chilton manual and take your time and you can do it.

Lane [ lane (at) evilplastic.com ]

As I lazily contemplate the very most easiest way to fix things, I had to wonder:

How about exchanging the interior and exterior panels, then removing and swapping out the DOOR completely? Hmmm?

-WaV

======= If electricity comes from electr> I've pulled window regulators several times. It's not too difficult or

Are you also going to swap the lock mechanism, or re-key the new one? Ever attempt to hang a door and put the hinge bolts in place and line up the door without the help of someone else? I have done both, and they're no fun. There's also the matter of pulling the power lock/window wiring out of the door and through the boot, and snaking & fastening it inside the new door...

I have done all of these things - I'm speaking from actual experience and not guessing or speculating. Swapping the regulator is MUCH less time consuming. Just make sure you have a good quality ViseGrips or the proper removal tool to get the nuts off which connect the regulator to the glass.

Lane [ lane (at) evilplastic.com ]

Nuts? I just moved the regulator and glass from my old door into a new door. The glass has little plastic tabs glued to it at the bottom. The regulator had metal tabs which into which the plastic tabs slid, with a little plastic catch, almost like a wire connector. I unbolted the regulator from the door, slid it to the side and in the process slid the window glass tabs out of the metal tabs on the regulator. Removed the glass, removed the regulator and installed both into the new door. Piece of cake. (Ok, I ate the cake after finishing installing the regulator and glass in the new door)

-David